I am looking for flip up scope covers. I know that the military uses them on some of thier sniper scopes. I can't help but think that they would use something that is a little bit more stout than the plastics that Butler Creek sell. I have tried to search to find them but no luck. A little help from you guys would be great.

Use the Butler Creek models (they're plastic). That's what we used in the Corps and they're pretty much the industry standard.

They're stout enough for the job they do. I've used them on every scope-equipped rifle I have ever owned and only broke one. It developed a small crack and was still usable. At a cost of about $7.50 each, they're easy to replace.

An aluminum model don't flex and therefore wouldn't fit the slight variations in each company's scopes. The stretch and friction of the plastic is what holds them on. I don't know how an aluminum would fit tightly and stay on without scratching up your scope.

Also, the aluminum would be noisier than the plastic.

There is absolutely no reason I can think of to switch to something like aluminum. You would then be taking something that works well and change it to a material that will get bent, twisted, and broken on the first day in the field.

Scope covers are very thin and using a material like aluminum would be a waste. You might as well use aluminum foil for all the good something like that would do.

…I’m off now to cut up my coke can so I can try it on my rifle tomorrow.

O.K., thanks for the info.

Thomas,

Rembmer when ya cut the Coke can to place the logo side of the aluminum towards the inside so it is not visible. Otherwise, you might have to pay royalties to Coca Cola!

Oh God he's on the royalties thing again!! Everyone run! Oh "GASP" I wish I hadn't said that, LMFAO!!

Actually we use a secret material in our lens covers, much stronger than plastic and Coke cans It's called polly-murr, some even make guns outta the stuff

BTW even the Swedish military use Butler Creek on their PSG 90 10x42mm optic on the AI AW, and they modified it to be a sliding sun shade and snow "slit' to boot The only problem I ever had with them is one of the pins came out Lost the spring but pushed a piece of wire through, 100 mph taped it closed and continued the mission with a protected lens

The old metal lens covers screwed in and were a pain in the...took awhile to take off and put on

Thomas, if ya made that look like the rear Butler Creek latch set up front and rear it would work...but then all you'd have was a Butler Creek copy, red in color, 2 each, with Coke printed on it Gad! And certain segments of our society would be cuttin' their noses on it while snorting

Take care...Jim

Never even seen aluminum covers...

Were did you hear that that was what we used in the Mil.?

I didn't here it anywhere. I just assumed that aluminum woudl be the choice over plastic. In retrospect now that I think about it, the military would choose the less expensive plastic over aluminum any day. And by plastic, I am including polymer in that category.

Amen to that...We're a bunch of cheap fu*%ers. Have to cut back were we can so NASA can spend 2mil on things like tolet seats and 1.5mil on a 3inc wrench with a string on it.

Yeah you are right, I don't know of any company, (and I have searched profusely on the internet) that makes aluminum any thicker or stronger than coke can matterial when it comes to aluminum stock. Billet aluminum, what the hell is that? I am convinced from your post that you have taken every effort to throw away your aircraft grade aluminum scope and tried to find a scope made entirely of plastic. I don't know you so it won't bother me one bit to insult you. If you exibit so little care as to treat your scope in a manner as to damage any attachment connected with it then I don't think that the scope would be much use to you. I may not have been in this business long, but I don know when I am being belittled. Trust me sir, I have been belittled by much better grade of people than yourself and it hasn't hurt me one little bit. I can't say the same for my repayment to them for thier treatment of me. After thier treatment of me, I visited one of them in the hospital, they were healing quite well.

Damn chief, I think you got under his skin!!

Billet aluminum is basically a solid "bar" of forged aluminum. It may be of any diameter or shape (round stock, square stock, blocks). It is what the aluminum frames of quality handguns and AR-15's are made of, as well as quality aluminum-bodied scopes. You machine the shape you want out of it, just like you would steel.



I'm not sure what you mean here. Plastic would not be the proper material for a rifle scope and in no way did snip1er infer this. It is not that plastic is better or stronger than aluminum. It is different. Some things are better made from various plastics and polymers, some are better made from aluminum. A scope cover needs to be somewhat flexible for several reasons. Aluminum of an appropriate thickness would not flex. It would be so thin that it would crumple. If you had any idea at all of what a Sniper rifle, or a hunting rifle, goes through you would understand why this would not work. The flexibility and lightness of the plastics are their strength. That's why high-quality rifle cases, like Starlight and Pelican, are made of advanced "plastics" and not aluminum. A plastic case will flex back into shape, an aluminum one would be permanently damaged.

At this point I will jump in an insult you because you have no idea what you are talking about. I know that you have never been a Sniper, or probably even hunted in any difficult terrain before. If you had, you would know that everything doesn't always go as planned. Equipment gets beat around and has to be rugged enough to take it and work at 100% efficiency, 100% of the time. Military Snipers may insert by parachute, helo (including helo-casting and FAST roping) or Zodiac. Not the most comfortable or safe means of transportation and they can all be hard on equipment. A LE Sniper's rifle will ride around all day in the trunk of a patrol care, participate in high speed chases and maneuvers and be subjected to collisions. A quality scope, such as those currently in use by the Marine Corps and US Army, are very rugged indeed. While I was a Scout-Sniper in the Corps, I saw more than one Unertl scope (including mine) take a helluva ding and still function. I'm talking dings that would tear an aluminum scope cover to bits. A good piece of quality should be "over-engineered", which basically means it will accept far greater abuse than what it's intended use will put it through. That's common sense. Try it sometimes, it works wonders.




That is a threat and we do not allow threats on this site. You are obviously too thin-skinned or immature to take some honest ribbing. In that case, this is the wrong site for you. The web is full of places for you to hang out, but is no longer the place for you. It takes a big man to utter a threat to someone over a computer, in a different state. I'm impressed, tough guy.

You came into a post honestly asking a question about a subject you did not know anything about. That's fine, that's what we're here for. I've asked more than my share of questions that I had no idea about. That's how you learn.

But, you didn't like the answer you got. You have no base of knowledge for the topic you breached. You were answered by someone who is former military and present Federal Law Enforcement (and "owner" of this website!) and has an excellent fount of knowledge to draw from. You obviously don't recognize man-to-man, adult joshing when it is directed at you. If the reply you got is reason enough to you to consider physical violence against another, you are obviously either off of your Ritalin or have some other sort of serious problems that you need to seek professional help with.

You are banned from this site as of now. Have a nice life (somewhere else). Can't say as we will miss you.

Hey Everyone,
If there was any question on the fastest way to get banned from Sniper's Paradise, this should answer it for you .
Thomas' comments were tongue in cheek at best, and if you review the initial reply from the now terminally suspended member, you'll see where he appreciated it in the light it was given.
Some people are just plain lucky that there isn't a hunting season on stupid ...
Respectfully,
Harry

Wouldn't do any good if there was a hunting season... You're only supposed to shoot mature animals - not fawns.

This dimwit is no loss at all.

I don't know about the covers, but I was thinking along the line of aluminum bells to hang on the rifle. Sometimes I find it real difficult to find my partner when he's all gillied up even though he's only five feet away. This way, he could just ring the bell so I know where he at ---- of corse I guess an aluminum cover flipping up might ring just as well.

Hmmmmm?

Never mind!

SSG