I'm buying a Savage from DougD in 300WM, so now I need new dies, brass, bullets, primers, powder etc.. What's a good combo for long range? After I get everything I need as well as optics I'm off to CVT! I should be ok as far as load data goes, but I want good components to work with.
Thanks

I liked RE22 for this round...190 SMK, and Lapua Brass...

I have 100 rounds of once fired Lapua brass for sale.. $70 bux shipped.. all ultrasonic cleaned and looks new..

Thanks, what does the Lapua go for new? (100 count)

I too am new to the 300 WSM and looking for a good load. Using Sierras data they state for the 175SMK that 66.5grs of XMR 4350 is thir accuracy load, well NOT in my rifle! So I'd like some advice as to powder selection and load for the 175 SMK! I know to start low and work up on any recommendation.
Thanks in advance!
Sarge

I ordered some 190gr SMK's and some Berger 190gr VLD's, we'll see which performs better.

They are about a buck each....

I think the Bergers were $31 for 100, the Barnes are the really expensive ones.

Sarge, I know about as much about the WSM as I do the WM, which is close to nothing.

SR,
Lapua brass, is about the best. It's what I use. It does very well. I like H-4831 powder, RL-22 works also. Reloader powders are double base, if you keep the bore clean their fine.

300wm
Lapua brass
RL-22 Start at 73.0 grains
SMK 190 @ 2950 fps
I use Winchester Mag primers

Sarge, try this:
Norma or Winchester brass
H-4350 63.5 grains
SMK 175
Winchester mag primers

Hope this helps guys.

flea

Thanks Flea, I'm writing down the info now

Flea, Thank You Sir! I'll add that one to the list. What is the main difference between H-4350 and XMR 4350 other than they are different companies and I know you can't use the same load data? As stated earlier my rifle REALLY didn't like XMR 4350. Kind of leaning toward RE 22 as others here and on other sites seem to like it for the magnum loads.

Well got some RL22 and some 180gr SMK's we'll see. If it doesn't like the 180's well I've already got the RL 22 so will try the 190's.

Hi Sarge,
The difference is burn rates mostly. There are some different flash retardants used in the H-4350, as well. It's a very consistant powder I've found anyway. I really like it for the 300 wsm. I also so the Berger 210's using the H-4350 in this case. Which has given me some great results.

I've not used the RL-22 in the 300 wsm, however. I've used it with very good success in the 300 wm. I would think it might be alittle to slow for the short mag.



Hope this helps.

flea

I received my Redding dies today as well as Berger and Sierra 190gr bullets, just need primers, powder and brass now.

Get some RL22 as mentioned but get some 210 VLDs instead of the 190s. They are a better long range bullet. If you're looking to buy Bergers go here Extreme Accuracy Also don't waste the money on Lapua 300WM brass. Get some Winchester. It's very good and won't break the bank.

One could look at 200 smk and sgk bullet that work for match and hunting.
Loading the 200 has allowed a cross over of data and one load data of RE-25
FED 215M primers, win cases with flash holes done at both ends a light cut on
primer pockets and a litttle deeper on the inside. Cutting primer pocket to
square up, cut to standard length with RCBS three way cutter.
Get load data off Alliant website for max load data. Found that 1.5 off max
made for a great shooter 23 moa at 1000 yds at 65 temp
Good luck and stay safe.

More interested in punching paper at long range or hunting with the .300 WM?

I can think of easier ways to get the velocity, trajectory, and accuracy at 1000 yards than shooting a magnum for paper punching. Easier on the shooter anyway. The 6.5-284 comes to mind. Still, shooting an accurate heavy thumper has it's own satisfying reward I'll admit.

For hunting though, I gotta tell ya, everything my buddies and I ever nailed with a .300 Win mag has expired Right Now! The .300 Win mag has quite a following around here as a general-purpose mule deer, black bear and elk rifle. There is quite a bit of season overlap, so it's nice to pack a rifle suitable for all three species. Good bullets are important to avoid blow-up on impact at shorter ranges. Nosler's partition and the Barnes X (TSX etc) are preferred.

I've had good results loading it with both IMR 4350 and Reloader 22 and 180 - 200 grain bullets. Haven't gone heavier. Did go lower... Had a fellow ask me to load him up some 165 grain Nosler ballistic tips at a bit over 3200 fps for longish range deer hunting. They killed deer like dynamite, but gave very shallow penetration and violent over-expansion. Not a stout enough bullet for good penetration on big game at .300 Win mag velocity. He's gone back to 180's now. I used to think the 180 Nosler Partition and the .300 Win mag were the perfect hunting rifle combo, but the excellent performance from the various Barnes hunting bullets has me thinking about them as well. A bit expensive for casual plinking...

Oh yeah - the 200 SPBT Sierra Gameking can be amazingly accurate!

FWIW, Guy

Does anyone have any extended data for 190gr using RL22?

Guys,

This has been beat to death also. Yes, 190's, 200 's and 210's all shoot great.

I think when we discuss which bullet is best we need to be sure to mention what kind of shooting we are going to do. Why because one stated bullet can be perfect for one kind of shooting, and be totally wrong for another.

While most sniper comps ban muzzle brakes or squad you all together, it's up to the folks putting on the match. Depending on what they approve can make a huge difference in what you need to load.

If your trying to reproduce the Federal match load, 190 is the bullet used, and the data I gave is pretty much dead on. Barrel length and bore diameter may vary.

For match shooting and depending on what kind of match the 210 Berger is a great bullet.

However, if your shooting F-class where it's illegel to shoot a muzzle brake. Your going to get beat up pretty bad unless your shooting a 17 lbs plus rifle and you weigh more than 220 pounds. At 5'9" and 175 lbs, I can't lay down and shoot 200 rounds of 210 Bergers without a brake.

However I can using the 190's, will it shoot tiny little groups like a 210 Berger nope. However it will shoot .5 moa at 1000 yds. Thats all I need to be competitive firing 20 record rounds in a F-class match at 1000 yds. It will buck the wind better then any little 6.5 bullet, FACT. I've shot both, and I know dang well where I have to hold when I get a 2 mph pick up with either bullet.

Now for IBS 1000 yds matches, I've shot some 200 SMK under .5 moa. Alot different ball game, different rifles, for most shooters.

Componets? Like brass, powder and primers? Yes you can buy the cheap stuff, and sit there for hours prepping it. Then when you get that big flyer and can't figure out why, because the case walls measured .0012" on one side and .0016" on the other. Can leave you scratching you head.

Or you can spend alittle more and get componets that you just load and go have fun. Why? Because their consistantly made. Oh yeah thats why your spending alittle more. It all depends again on what kind of shooting YOU, want to do.

Advise time! Work up your loads to where on a good condition day your rifle will shoot .5 moa at 600 yds and 1000 yds. Then STOP messing with it, and go learn wind dope!!!!! Log your shots and dope. Don't spend the entire shooting season chasing that .25 moa group, your goinig to lose more matches and be more frustrated.

My 2 cents, flea