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| Guest_harlequin_* |
Oct 20 2004, 19:07
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Is there any scope that offers anything less than a 1/4" MOA or is such a fine adjustment needed?
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Oct 20 2004, 19:19
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Army Lt. Group: Registered Posts: 621 Joined: 26-January 2004 From: Fort Hood, TX Member No.: 4,547 Rifle:Rem 700, A5 stock & 5R barrel Optics:IOR 6-24X50 35mm tube Ammo:Black Hills 175gr. BTHP Match |
Weaver makes a scope I think it is a V-36 with 1/8 MOA adjustment. It can't be that bad, I believe Flea told me he went to a competition and won with one.
Tim This post has been edited by Hardcore357m: Oct 20 2004, 19:20 |
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Oct 20 2004, 19:37
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LEO Group: Registered Posts: 1,207 Joined: 17-November 2002 From: Salt Lake City Member No.: 1,950 Rifle:AIAW Optics:U.S. Optics / Schmidt Bender Ammo:TTI 168 Grain AMAX |
Virtually all of the major hunting scope manufacturers make 1/8 MOA scopes, and some even make 1/16 moa. It used to be very common, not so much any more. I have seen them on the cheapest scopes out there, and on some very fine optics.
This kind of fine adjustment is usually designed for long range shooters with very accurate rifles, or Varmint hunters also with very accurate rifles that use small flat shooting bullets. Few rifles can hold that tight at 100 yards so making a 1/8 moa adjustment at that range is pretty rare. However, that same adjustment at 1000 yards is a different story especially with very flat shooting cartridges. Bench rest guns will shoot that tight, and when in one position, at a standard range, you may need those adjustments. Some of these guns will shoot into the .10 groups. It is also generally better used by those shooters that will typically shoot from just a few ranges at any given session. If you are looking for a tactical scope it can be cumbersome if you are shooting at distances, especially if you are changing the adjustments frequently at a session. It can be hard enough to keep track of how many turns you have made with a 1/4 moa knob let alone twice as much. I would not recommend that fine adjustment for most shooters, it is just simply a pain in the rear. Using 1/4 MOA is fine, and I have had great success with tactical scopes that were even 1/2 MOA. Clint Smith always told me that your scope should have no finer adjustment than the rifle will shoot so 1/4MOA is pretty much the norm. |
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Oct 20 2004, 19:41
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Cool, thanks. I get silver dollar sized shot groups dead center with my rifle at 100yds with a 3-9x40mm scope. I just wish that the Super Sniper scope had a variable magnification.
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Oct 20 2004, 19:54
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Army Lt. Group: Registered Posts: 621 Joined: 26-January 2004 From: Fort Hood, TX Member No.: 4,547 Rifle:Rem 700, A5 stock & 5R barrel Optics:IOR 6-24X50 35mm tube Ammo:Black Hills 175gr. BTHP Match |
The only time I could see maybe needing anything more than 1/4 MOA is with law enforcement where the engagement is typically less than 100yds and the shot has to be right on. even then 1/4 is probably going to be near as good IMHO.
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Oct 20 2004, 21:09
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Master Flea Group: Staff Moderators Posts: 5,123 Joined: 29-November 2003 From: South Central Virginia Member No.: 3,596 Rifle:1 Sako TRG22/1 McMillan Tactical 300wm/ 1- 308 custom w/A-5 McMillan stock, 1, PSS Optics:1 3.5x15x50 NF NXS, IOR 10X Ammo:Handloads/M 118 LR |
NightForce BR scopes are all 1/8 MOA adjustments. Very fine adjustments are welcomed by alot of BR shooters. Most tactical scopes are 1/4 MOA, some are .5 MOA and 1 MOA.
I like 1/4 MOA adjustments for 300 wm and above. My 308 I like .5 MOA for shooting steel targets. You can dial your dope in so much faster. Well for me anyway. Problem with most scopes with 1/8 MOA adjustments is they don't have alot of total MOA in the turrets for elevation. This post has been edited by Flea: Oct 20 2004, 21:10 |
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Oct 21 2004, 18:00
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Grand Poo-bah Group: SP Admin Posts: 11,418 Joined: 17-February 2003 From: Dallas, GA Member No.: 2,367 Rifle:HD Rifles/Patriot Arms Rem700 .308 Optics:Nightforce 5.5-20x50mm, MLR reticle, Zero Stop Ammo:Black Hills 175grn Match |
One of the problems with 1/8 and finer adjustments is that when shooting at extended distances, that's a whole lotta clicks ya gotta turn! Just think, an adjustment that would need 32 clicks of elevation with a 1/4MOA scope would take 64 clicks with a 1/8. Too much work. Wear my trigger finger out!
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