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| Guest_Schmidt_Rubin_* |
Dec 26 2005, 13:23
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I'm buying a Savage from DougD in 300WM, so now I need new dies, brass, bullets, primers, powder etc.. What's a good combo for long range? After I get everything I need as well as optics I'm off to CVT! I should be ok as far as load data goes, but I want good components to work with.
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Dec 26 2005, 13:24
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PFC Group: Registered Posts: 213 Joined: 30-September 2005 From: Sarasota florida Member No.: 9,239 Rifle:GAP Crusader Optics:USO SN3 Ammo:Handloads |
I liked RE22 for this round...190 SMK, and Lapua Brass...
I have 100 rounds of once fired Lapua brass for sale.. (IMG:http://www.snipersparadise.com/sniperchat/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) $70 bux shipped.. (IMG:http://www.snipersparadise.com/sniperchat/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) all ultrasonic cleaned and looks new.. (IMG:http://www.snipersparadise.com/sniperchat/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Guest_Schmidt_Rubin_* |
Dec 26 2005, 13:26
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Thanks, what does the Lapua go for new? (100 count)
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Dec 26 2005, 15:16
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I too am new to the 300 WSM and looking for a good load. Using Sierras data they state for the 175SMK that 66.5grs of XMR 4350 is thir accuracy load, well NOT in my rifle! So I'd like some advice as to powder selection and load for the 175 SMK! I know to start low and work up on any recommendation.
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| Guest_Schmidt_Rubin_* |
Dec 26 2005, 15:56
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I ordered some 190gr SMK's and some Berger 190gr VLD's, we'll see which performs better.
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Dec 26 2005, 18:41
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PFC Group: Registered Posts: 213 Joined: 30-September 2005 From: Sarasota florida Member No.: 9,239 Rifle:GAP Crusader Optics:USO SN3 Ammo:Handloads |
They are about a buck each.... (IMG:http://www.snipersparadise.com/sniperchat/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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| Guest_Schmidt_Rubin_* |
Dec 26 2005, 18:54
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I think the Bergers were $31 for 100, the Barnes are the really expensive ones.
Sarge, I know about as much about the WSM as I do the WM, which is close to nothing. This post has been edited by Schmidt_Rubin: Dec 26 2005, 18:56 |
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Dec 27 2005, 7:16
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Master Flea Group: Staff Moderators Posts: 5,123 Joined: 29-November 2003 From: South Central Virginia Member No.: 3,596 Rifle:1 Sako TRG22/1 McMillan Tactical 300wm/ 1- 308 custom w/A-5 McMillan stock, 1, PSS Optics:1 3.5x15x50 NF NXS, IOR 10X Ammo:Handloads/M 118 LR |
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Lapua brass, is about the best. It's what I use. It does very well. I like H-4831 powder, RL-22 works also. Reloader powders are double base, if you keep the bore clean their fine. 300wm Lapua brass RL-22 Start at 73.0 grains SMK 190 @ 2950 fps I use Winchester Mag primers Sarge, try this: Norma or Winchester brass H-4350 63.5 grains SMK 175 Winchester mag primers Hope this helps guys. flea |
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| Guest_Schmidt_Rubin_* |
Dec 27 2005, 10:38
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Thanks Flea, I'm writing down the info now (IMG:http://www.snipersparadise.com/sniperchat/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dec 27 2005, 11:18
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Flea, Thank You Sir! I'll add that one to the list. What is the main difference between H-4350 and XMR 4350 other than they are different companies and I know you can't use the same load data? As stated earlier my rifle REALLY didn't like XMR 4350. Kind of leaning toward RE 22 as others here and on other sites seem to like it for the magnum loads.
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Dec 27 2005, 15:29
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Junior Member Group: Registered Posts: 35 Joined: 15-June 2003 Member No.: 2,831 |
Well got some RL22 and some 180gr SMK's we'll see. If it doesn't like the 180's well I've already got the RL 22 so will try the 190's.
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Dec 30 2005, 13:40
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Master Flea Group: Staff Moderators Posts: 5,123 Joined: 29-November 2003 From: South Central Virginia Member No.: 3,596 Rifle:1 Sako TRG22/1 McMillan Tactical 300wm/ 1- 308 custom w/A-5 McMillan stock, 1, PSS Optics:1 3.5x15x50 NF NXS, IOR 10X Ammo:Handloads/M 118 LR |
Hi Sarge,
The difference is burn rates mostly. There are some different flash retardants used in the H-4350, as well. It's a very consistant powder I've found anyway. I really like it for the 300 wsm. I also so the Berger 210's using the H-4350 in this case. Which has given me some great results. I've not used the RL-22 in the 300 wsm, however. I've used it with very good success in the 300 wm. I would think it might be alittle to slow for the short mag. Hope this helps. flea |
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| Guest_Schmidt_Rubin_* |
Dec 30 2005, 13:58
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I received my Redding dies today as well as Berger and Sierra 190gr bullets, just need primers, powder and brass now.
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Dec 30 2005, 17:33
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Senior Member Group: Registered Posts: 627 Joined: 26-November 2000 Member No.: 26 Rifle:GA Precision .308 and GA Precision .243 Optics:S&B 5-25x56 PMII and 3-12x50 PMII Ammo:Handloads |
Get some RL22 as mentioned but get some 210 VLDs instead of the 190s. They are a better long range bullet. If you're looking to buy Bergers go here Extreme Accuracy Also don't waste the money on Lapua 300WM brass. Get some Winchester. It's very good and won't break the bank.
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Jan 3 2006, 12:32
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PFC Group: Registered Posts: 32 Joined: 28-March 2005 From: Idaho Member No.: 8,371 Rifle:Rem 700 Optics:leupold Ammo:Winchester,Federal, and handloads |
One could look at 200 smk and sgk bullet that work for match and hunting.
Loading the 200 has allowed a cross over of data and one load data of RE-25 FED 215M primers, win cases with flash holes done at both ends a light cut on primer pockets and a litttle deeper on the inside. Cutting primer pocket to square up, cut to standard length with RCBS three way cutter. Get load data off Alliant website for max load data. Found that 1.5 off max made for a great shooter 23 moa at 1000 yds at 65 temp Good luck and stay safe. |
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