 Controlled round feed or push feed? |
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 Sep 11 2007, 1:50
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PFC Group: Registered Posts: 68 Joined: 22-December 2006 Member No.: 13,196 Rifle:ssg 69 Optics:kahles Ammo:308  |
I've got push and crf, never
had any problem's with either. Regards Albert |
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Sep 14 2007, 14:39
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PFC  Group: Military Veteran Posts: 259 Joined: 19-June 2007 From: South Carolina Member No.: 15,574 Rifle:FNH SPR .308, AI AE .308, RRA 20 Optics:Leupold Mark 4 6.5-20x50, Mark 4 16x40 M1, Super Sniper 10x42M Ammo:Handloads, Sierra MK 175/Hornady 155 A-Max, Varget powder |
QUOTE(Patriot @ Sep 15 2005, 19:49)  What happens when you have a control round feed and you get into a jam and have to throw an extra round in and forget to push it down in the mag before you feed it.....then you ram it home and.........bummer dude your'e s*@t out of luck! If it's an FNH, your good to go! (IMG:http://snipersparadise.com/sniperchat/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Oct 10 2007, 22:45
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PFC Group: Registered Posts: 14 Joined: 24-September 2005 Member No.: 9,211 Rifle:Custom built .408 Chey Tac Optics:Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 Ammo:handloads |
Aren't Weatherby, Sako, Ruger, Kimber, Cooper, Steyr-Mannlicher, Dakota also CRF actions and Remington has the Mauser and their CRF actions also...l
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 Oct 15 2007, 21:51
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FNG Group: Registered Posts: 1 Joined: 15-October 2007 From: Great Lakes Member No.: 17,587 Rifle:Custom M1917 : Custom FN Mauser Optics:Weaver 3X9 Ammo:30.06 |
Best of both worlds ... The M1917 action.
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Nov 6 2007, 21:38
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PFC Group: Registered Posts: 106 Joined: 20-August 2007 From: Gold Canyon, AZ Member No.: 16,820 Rifle:FN SPR A4 .308 Optics:Super Sniper 10x SF Ammo:A-Max 168gr |
QUOTE(juroku @ Sep 4 2005, 16:41) One of the things I like about the FN is that you can control how the rifle ejects. You can run it hard and toss brass over your partner. You can run it slow and have it trickle into your palm. Dave This is a feature I prefer over my 700pss. |
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Jan 25 2008, 1:49
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PFC Group: Registered Posts: 31 Joined: 26-December 2004 Member No.: 7,239 Rifle:Sigarms STR 970 Optics:Leupold Ammo:handload |
QUOTE (larsenj @ Sep 14 2007, 15:39) QUOTE (Patriot @ Sep 15 2005, 19:49) What happens when you have a control round feed and you get into a jam and have to throw an extra round in and forget to push it down in the mag before you feed it.....then you ram it home and.........bummer dude your'e s*@t out of luck! If it's an FNH, your good to go! (IMG:http://snipersparadise.com/sniperchat/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Single feed is possible by dropping in a round in the ejection /feed port. The claw will snap over the rim. As far as the charging beast that will kill you............If you got enough time to add more rounds to your rifle YOUR dead This post has been edited by raihtrohs: Jan 25 2008, 1:51 |
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Jan 28 2008, 18:16
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Senior Member Group: Registered Posts: 235 Joined: 17-November 2000 Member No.: 10 |
I've seen failures of CRF rifles, both Mauser and Winchester actual pre-64s. In some cases it was due to wear/damage and in a couple of cases it was due to botched smithing. I have a few Mausers (military and commercial actions) and a few actual pre-64 Winchesters of which none have ever failed, including a .416 Rigby CZ that I love to plink with for as long as I can stand it. Fun at the range with stout loads.
That said I have had problems with Remingtons but primarily when chambered for the Ultramags. Not enough bolt head left for the extractor to stay in, which is why they are riveted in. To be blunt, the original extractor in my .338 RUM failed after about 500 rounds. Not impressed with that. Now in standard 30-06 case head diameters and .223 I've never had a single problem. Now as far as hunting dangerous game goes, if you don't have at least one person backing you, you shouldn't be there in the first place, W.D.M Bell aside. I would never stand and brain an elephant at 50 feet with a 6.5 X 54 Mannlichner-Schoeneur once, let alone on a consistant basis. At any rate, for a magnum case head or larger (ie .404 Jeffries or RUM) I would prefer other than the Remington extractor. Oh yes, I also like one piece bolt/handles too. And if the machining of the bolt, receiver and barrel are good, the bolt head shouldn't have to float to line up in the chamber. |
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Dec 12 2008, 13:32
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A little tweaking and both types and there variants are reliable!!!!! That being said I build and shoot them all but tend to prefer the push feed for overall accuracy --- however FN Mod 70 actions ( SPR type not PBR types ) are VERY HARD TO BEAT for overall reliability vs. accuracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , Red
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Dec 12 2008, 17:10
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Gold since 013009  Group: Gold Membership Posts: 1,356 Joined: 14-February 2007 From: Alexandria, Indiana Member No.: 13,891 Rifle:Savage Model 10FP, Savage Model 12 BVSS Optics:Tasco Tactical 8-40x56, BSA Platinum 8-32x44 Ammo:.308 168gr Amax, 175gr SMK,.223 68gr & 70gr, Handloads of course... |
I've fired both without failure, just as a personal preference, push-feed...
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Jan 15 2009, 17:30
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Sniper's Paradise Chaplain Group: Military Veteran Posts: 1,813 Joined: 21-November 2007 Member No.: 18,111 Rifle:12 Varmint LowPro SS w/DBM, 300 WSM., Rock Creek Bi-pod, Winchester 670 .308 Custom, Savage Mark II-FV .22LR, CVA Frontier .50 cal. Optics:Nikon 4.5-14X40 SF Buckmaster , Burris Signature Z Rings, EGW 20 MOA Base, Butler Creek eye cap, Butler Creek obj., Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40, EGW 25MOA, Leapears 3-9X50 Ill. Ammo:Brass: Winchester, Norma, LC Match, R-P, RWS Match, Primers: CCI 200, F210, Powder:Varget, 4064, RL 15, Bullets: Hornady 110 V-Max, 168 A-Max, 190SMK |
I don't have a controlled feed, but by cmshoots description that would be the way to go. What are the pro's and cons of a contdrolled feed?
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Jan 16 2009, 5:26
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Gold since 013009 Group: Gold Membership Posts: 1,356 Joined: 14-February 2007 From: Alexandria, Indiana Member No.: 13,891 Rifle:Savage Model 10FP, Savage Model 12 BVSS Optics:Tasco Tactical 8-40x56, BSA Platinum 8-32x44 Ammo:.308 168gr Amax, 175gr SMK,.223 68gr & 70gr, Handloads of course... |
QUOTE (liltank @ Jan 15 2009, 18:30) I don't have a controlled feed, but by cmshoots description that would be the way to go. What are the pro's and cons of a contdrolled feed? The only actual con I'm aware of is if/when you single feed you have to load into the magazine with controlled feed, can't just drop it in the chamber and close the bolt... |
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