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  • Flea's Rifle Cleaning Techniques

    Hi all:
    I've taken the liberty to write up Flea's cleaning techniques, as taught to me and others during our training with him. Vern, jump in if I've made any errors. All I did was type this in... I can't take credit for any of the techniques.

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    Cheers,
    --Hawk

    Make sure to use a good quality bore guide for all the steps involving cleaning rods, except the chamber cleaning step.

    Bore Cleaning

    To be done after every range session.

    1. Push 2-4 patches soaked in Montana X-Treme 50 BMG through the bore until the large amounts of loose carbon aren't showing up on the patch (using a cleaning jag).

    2. Scrub the bore with your bore brush (Dewey bronze brushes work best) one time forward and backward for each round fired. Soak the brush before pushing it down the bore, and every 9th-10th stroke if needed. Re-wet the brush while it is out the end of the bore.

    3. Wait 5 minutes.

    4. Push clean dry patches through the bore until they come out totally dry, with no discoloration.

    5. Using a fresh patch soaked in 50 BMG and short strokes, rapidly scrub the bore back and forth in order to work up a lather of 50 BMG in the bore. Work your way down the bore. Immediately after this step, you can run a slightly smaller patch soaked in hydrogen peroxide slowly through the bore to activate the 50 BMG and make it work even better.

    6. Wait 5 minutes.

    7. If the rifle is broken in well, you will get very little blue on the patch (copper that has been broken down) and almost no carbon since it was removed for the most part in Step 4.

    8. Even if Steps 5-7 come out clean, repeat them just to be sure.

    9. Run dry patches though the bore to remove the 50 BMG excess.

    10. Run two patches soaked in 91% isopropyl alcohol though the bore to make sure there are no solvent residues left over.

    11. Run two dry patches through the bore to dry out the alcohol.

    12. Run a patch of Montana X-Treme Bore Oil through the bore if you will not be shooting the rifle for a few days. Remember to run a dry patch down the bore to remove the oil before firing the rifle again.


    Chamber Cleaning

    To be done after every range session.

    1) Using either a Sinclair or http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/...&t=11082005 chamber cleaning kit, soak a cotton roll in 91% Isopropyl Alcohol and mount it in the cleaning jig, and mount the cleaning jig on the chamber cleaning rod provided.

    2) Slowly push the assembly into the chamber. Once the assembly has bottomed out, rotate the rod clockwise as seen from the butt 3-5 times. Be careful not to shred the roll, as this will leave hard to remove bits of cotton in the chamber.

    3) Repeat Step 2) until the rolls come out clean. Follow with a dry roll.

    4) Now take the included chamber cleaning mop, wrap a 2-1/4 inch patch around it counterclockwise, soak with 91% Isopropyl, install on the chamber cleaning rod, and insert the assembly into the chamber.

    5) Rotate the assembly several times clockwise. Remove and discard the patch, and repeat until the patches come out clean.

    6) Inspect the chamber and throat for any cotton debris from cleaning. Remove with a dental pick.

    Note: The bolt should occassionally (every few hundred rounds or so) be disassembled and cleaned throughly also. Relube only with a grease intended for bolts, such as Montana X-Treme bolt grease.

    A dental pick can be very useful in getting small debris out of hard to reach places in your weapon.


    Throat/Carbon Cleaning

    To be done every 100-200 rounds.

    1) Squeeze out about 1/2 inch of USP Bore Paste onto a patch, then spread the paste over the full surface of the patch. Vern reports that you do not want to use any other bore paste, as the pastes from the other guys are known to remove metal.

    2) Wrap the patch around your cleaning jag, and stroke it back and forth 20 times through the first 3-4 inches of the barrel. Use a rod stop if necessary.

    3) Push the patch through the barrel until NO MORE than 1/32-inch is sticking out of the barrel. Set your rod stop against the back of your bore guide. Stroke the patch 10 times through the entire barrel, checking every few strokes to ensure the rod stop has not slipped. If it does, you run the risk of ruining the crown on your barrel.

    4) Wipe your cleaning rod off, and run two patches of alcohol through the barrel, followed by two dry patches. Follow with a patch of bore oil if the rifle will not be fired for several days.


    *NOTE: I just provided the links for people's convenience in seeing what the products are and how much they cost. I am in no way affiliated with Sinclair and Midway, other than as a satisfied customer.
    There are few problems a well-placed 308 cannot cure. --- Hawk

    Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the War Room! --- President Merkin Muffley in Dr. Strangelove

    Rocket Science is much more fun when you actually have rockets! --- USN Recruiting Commercial

    A little revolution now and then is a good thing --- Thomas Jefferson

    Only the dead have seen an end to war --- Plato

    "In Ireland, in Lebanon, in Palestine & Berkeley, Patty Hurst, heard the burst, of Roland's Thompson gun & bought it!!!" --- The Late Warren Zevon, Roland The Headless Thompson Gunner

    In the 1500's, the Roman Catholic Church sold indulgences to forgive sin. In the 21st century, we call these carbon offsets. ---Hawk

    �Fight like a man, so you will not have to die like a dog� --- Calico Jack Rackham's Mistress

  • #2
    RebHawk:

    Thanks for posting these instructions. Almost everything makes sense to me, but I have a couple of questions.

    1. How does hydrogen peroxide activate the Monatana Xtreme .50BMG? Just curious.

    2. With reference to the cotton rolls and the chamber cleaning. Are you using the cotton rolls to clean the bolt lug recesses, or the chamber itself?

    3. Finaly, with reference to the bolt grease, I assume you only use it on the bolt lugs, not inside the bolt, on the firing pin and spring, etc..

    Thanks again,

    James
    "Ever since I was a kid I've had snakes as pets. They're clean and quiet. You give them rodents and they give you pure, unconditional indifference." Carl Hiaasen

    "The Constitution is NOT and instrument for the government to restrain the people, it IS an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." - Patrick Henry

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    • #3
      Hi James,
      The hydrogen peroxide, and the ammonia will have a chemical reaction, and the result is forming. Nothing harmful, just forming. This loosens up the copper.

      The cotton rolls, (look like cigarette filters) they clean the lug area.

      The bolt grease is a high compression grease, and should be applied to the locking lugs, (lightly) and the area on the bolt handle which cams the bolt back as you open it. When you pull the firing pin out you need to put a small amount of grease on the shroud threads. Not on the pin, sir.

      Hope this helps.

      Vern
      "with the patience of an oyster....I watch and wait"

      Training the US, one shooter at a time.






      http://www.centralvirginiatactical.com

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      • #4
        Flea,

        Thanks for the info. In the past, I have neglected to grease the shroud threads, but I will do this now. Also, I will have to try the hydrogen peroxide. I thought the cotton rolls were for the lugs, at least that is how I used them. Thought there might have been another use.

        I take it you don't use any solvent on the lug recesses or in the chamber, just the 91% alcohol?

        James
        "Ever since I was a kid I've had snakes as pets. They're clean and quiet. You give them rodents and they give you pure, unconditional indifference." Carl Hiaasen

        "The Constitution is NOT and instrument for the government to restrain the people, it IS an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." - Patrick Henry

        "War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner." ? Cormac McCarthy

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        • #5
          James:
          Correct, just the 91% Alcohol in the chamber/lug recesses.

          Cheers,
          --Hawk
          There are few problems a well-placed 308 cannot cure. --- Hawk

          Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the War Room! --- President Merkin Muffley in Dr. Strangelove

          Rocket Science is much more fun when you actually have rockets! --- USN Recruiting Commercial

          A little revolution now and then is a good thing --- Thomas Jefferson

          Only the dead have seen an end to war --- Plato

          "In Ireland, in Lebanon, in Palestine & Berkeley, Patty Hurst, heard the burst, of Roland's Thompson gun & bought it!!!" --- The Late Warren Zevon, Roland The Headless Thompson Gunner

          In the 1500's, the Roman Catholic Church sold indulgences to forgive sin. In the 21st century, we call these carbon offsets. ---Hawk

          �Fight like a man, so you will not have to die like a dog� --- Calico Jack Rackham's Mistress

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          • #6
            Hey James,
            No sir, I only apply grease to the back of the lugs. If the bolt lugs get dirty then yes I use alcohol to clean everything up. You want to keep this grease to just a tiny amount. The more grease you get in that lug area the more junk gets trapped down there.

            Vern
            "with the patience of an oyster....I watch and wait"

            Training the US, one shooter at a time.






            http://www.centralvirginiatactical.com

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            • #7
              Reb you out did yourself on that write up--- I printed it out and used this last weekend.
              Thanks-------and YodaFlea your still the man!
              "The two most powerful warriors are patience and time."
              Leo Tolstoy

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              • #8
                Dang, ya'll embarrass me, I'm just trying to help when I can.


                flea
                "with the patience of an oyster....I watch and wait"

                Training the US, one shooter at a time.






                http://www.centralvirginiatactical.com

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                • #9
                  Beck:
                  Thanks for the kind words, but all I did was write it up. All the credit goes to Vern, who figured it all out. That, after all, is the hard part!

                  Cheers,
                  --Hawk
                  There are few problems a well-placed 308 cannot cure. --- Hawk

                  Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the War Room! --- President Merkin Muffley in Dr. Strangelove

                  Rocket Science is much more fun when you actually have rockets! --- USN Recruiting Commercial

                  A little revolution now and then is a good thing --- Thomas Jefferson

                  Only the dead have seen an end to war --- Plato

                  "In Ireland, in Lebanon, in Palestine & Berkeley, Patty Hurst, heard the burst, of Roland's Thompson gun & bought it!!!" --- The Late Warren Zevon, Roland The Headless Thompson Gunner

                  In the 1500's, the Roman Catholic Church sold indulgences to forgive sin. In the 21st century, we call these carbon offsets. ---Hawk

                  �Fight like a man, so you will not have to die like a dog� --- Calico Jack Rackham's Mistress

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                  • #10
                    Grace:
                    That's fine by me
                    Cheers,
                    --Hawk
                    There are few problems a well-placed 308 cannot cure. --- Hawk

                    Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the War Room! --- President Merkin Muffley in Dr. Strangelove

                    Rocket Science is much more fun when you actually have rockets! --- USN Recruiting Commercial

                    A little revolution now and then is a good thing --- Thomas Jefferson

                    Only the dead have seen an end to war --- Plato

                    "In Ireland, in Lebanon, in Palestine & Berkeley, Patty Hurst, heard the burst, of Roland's Thompson gun & bought it!!!" --- The Late Warren Zevon, Roland The Headless Thompson Gunner

                    In the 1500's, the Roman Catholic Church sold indulgences to forgive sin. In the 21st century, we call these carbon offsets. ---Hawk

                    �Fight like a man, so you will not have to die like a dog� --- Calico Jack Rackham's Mistress

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                    • #11
                      Yep.
                      "with the patience of an oyster....I watch and wait"

                      Training the US, one shooter at a time.






                      http://www.centralvirginiatactical.com

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                      • #12
                        Should I modify these instructions any with regards to my chrome lined FN SPR?

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                        • #13
                          [quote]
                          Should I modify these instructions any with regards to my chrome lined FN SPR?[/b]
                          I wouldn't think so. Vern?

                          Cheers,
                          --Hawk
                          There are few problems a well-placed 308 cannot cure. --- Hawk

                          Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the War Room! --- President Merkin Muffley in Dr. Strangelove

                          Rocket Science is much more fun when you actually have rockets! --- USN Recruiting Commercial

                          A little revolution now and then is a good thing --- Thomas Jefferson

                          Only the dead have seen an end to war --- Plato

                          "In Ireland, in Lebanon, in Palestine & Berkeley, Patty Hurst, heard the burst, of Roland's Thompson gun & bought it!!!" --- The Late Warren Zevon, Roland The Headless Thompson Gunner

                          In the 1500's, the Roman Catholic Church sold indulgences to forgive sin. In the 21st century, we call these carbon offsets. ---Hawk

                          �Fight like a man, so you will not have to die like a dog� --- Calico Jack Rackham's Mistress

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                          • #14
                            I always use Maguiar's or Eagle products on my chrome.

                            We are talkin' bumpers here, aren't we?
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                            Shortly before World War I, the German Kaiser was the guest of the Swiss government to observe military maneuvers. The Kaiser asked a Swiss militiaman: "You are 500,000 and you shoot well, but if we attack with 1,000,000 men what will you do?" The soldier replied: "We will shoot twice and go home."

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                            • #15
                              Well guys believe it or not I didn't know the answer to this one. So I made a few phone calls to a few of the top barrel makers.

                              All said the same thing. A Crome barrel can be as smooth or as rough as any other barrel. Just because it's cromed doesn't mean the bore was smooth to start with.

                              So treat them all the same and thats from the best out there.


                              flea
                              "with the patience of an oyster....I watch and wait"

                              Training the US, one shooter at a time.






                              http://www.centralvirginiatactical.com

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