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  • JY
    started a topic Drag Bags, An Article

    Drag Bags, An Article

    Any rifle case can be a drag bag by attaching a hand loop and possibly a method to connect a line or "leash" to allow it to be dragged behind you in a hands free method. The results are not the ideal drag bag, but it will be functional for awhile until it's civilian roots betray it and the hard stress and strain of hard use destroys it.

    This article is about two purpose built drag bags, the two basic designs from which many copies have sprung. These are Eagle bags, they are not new out of the package items but have been used for a few years in the field for what they were intended to do...get you and your weapon in and out of of a hostile AO...and getting the heck outta Dodge as fast a possible at times. Both have their own pluses and minuses, the first described is the most basic, actually an improved version of the bag described in FM 23-10. The second a more spacious and protective bag.

    The first bag is a simple envelope design improved from the one in FM 23-10 by making weapon access better and adding more features The front of the bag has runs of 550 cord to attach ghillie material or to attach extra items. The rear has runs of nylon tape to act as skid plates and slow wear A drag loop is included along with three D rings, two visable and the third under the drag loop. These D rings are used to attach a pack harness,, lash the bag to a ruck, or attach a "leash"

    CONTINUED BELOW (please do not post reply until last section of article is posted...thanks)

  • longrangetoepepper
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    Well, you could make a design with all the features you want, and then have it made by your
    (designated) cloth workshop, if in the militairy.
    I know that the airforce has well equipped stores, (originally for flightcrew gear repairs), but they do have all type of goretex, webbing, padding etc.

    Just my idea... low cost, and built to specs.

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  • ss58
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    Harry made a very valid point. If you're not going to use it for anything other than "transporting" there are other options. I have a Galati bag that is very well made and 1/2 the cost of the Eagle. If you are really going out in the shiite and going to be dragging your gear around then ccso12 said it best "buy once...cry once" The link I gave you for the Galati is one of our SP vendors U.S. Armorment you should always give Rory a call on gear he takes very good care of SP guy's.

    http://usarmorment.com/galati-classic-drag...ping-p-260.html

    Sam

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  • usngunner
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    [quote]
    I wish they made a gortex lined drag bag that was 100 percent water proof and this would protect your weapon and give you a good ground insulator.[/b]
    Complete waste of Gore-Tex. Drag bags are not designed to "store" a weapon. Nor is Gore-Tex an insulator. The Cordura and padding in the bag will be fine. No need to add another $100 to the price of a drag bag.

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  • Kip
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    I wish they made a gortex lined drag bag that was 100 percent water proof and this would protect your weapon and give you a good ground insulator.

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  • ccso12
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    [quote]
    I like the one with the shooters mat better. Is it as durable is the more complex bag? Does anyone use the cheaper one or do most use the more expensive one?[/b]

    the guys that know said to buy good stuff once. They havent led me astray yet and I am saving for the better quality one. I have bought some cheaper stuff because it was readily available and I needed it right away but buy good stuff if you can wait till you got the cash. The better quality stuff I have bought has always performed well. Most of the time my long gun is 10-8 its in the pelican in the back of the truck or inside strapped to the back of the seat if there isn't any of the designated snipers on duty. I wait since I don't really need it immediately and the only dragging is to the house and the pelican has wheels...to aid in sliding and wear...

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  • Kip
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    I like the one with the shooters mat better. Is it as durable is the more complex bag? Does anyone use the cheaper one or do most use the more expensive one?

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  • SpecOpsScout
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    Hey Brother,
    If you read the review above, you'll see that the first bag is a very simple design that basically just folds around the rifle, and is secured by a couple of clips. It's basic design and easier construction is the reason it's less expensive. The larger bag is a more complex design, that has multiple pockets secured with zippers, fold away shoulder straps and so on. The more complex construction is the reason for the higher price. Pros and cons of the bag are based on perceived need. If you only plan to carry a rifle in the case, there is nothing wrong with the more simple design. Of course, you'll be carrying the rest of your gear elsewhere. If you'd like to have all your gear in one case, the second bag might be the better option...
    If you are interested in a bag like the second, but with an added ground pad, also American made, you can look at the drag bags made by Tactical Operations, Inc. The bags are very similar to the Eagle Drag Bag, but have an additional pocket for a suppressor, and also have an accordion style fold away shooting mat that has it's own pocket on the underside of the bag and reportedly makes the bag more comfortable to carry against the back when heavily loaded, and also smoother to drag...Here is a review of one of the bags, from Sniper Central.
    Respectfully,
    Harry

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  • Kip
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    [quote]
    Hey Kip,
    Many time in the archives, particularly in the oldest topics, pictures won't be available. Posters have only been able to upload pictures directly to the site for the last four years or so. Prior to that, hosting via a third party was the only option. That's why in most instances the pictures won't be available unless the poster is still maintaining the picture(s).
    The two bags Jim was evaluating are the;
    1. Eagle Sniper Rifle Case and Shooting Pad
    2. Eagle Drag Bag
    I hope this helps...
    Respectfully,
    Harry[/b]
    Is there any cons to having a drag bag that also has a shooting pad? I have been wanting to get one but never got around to it. Why is the one with the mat so much cheaper? Is the mat version less durable or less built to be half the price?

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  • SpecOpsScout
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    Hey Kip,
    Many time in the archives, particularly in the oldest topics, pictures won't be available. Posters have only been able to upload pictures directly to the site for the last four years or so. Prior to that, hosting via a third party was the only option. That's why in most instances the pictures won't be available unless the poster is still maintaining the picture(s).
    The two bags Jim was evaluating are the;
    1. Eagle Sniper Rifle Case and Shooting Pad
    2. Eagle Drag Bag
    I hope this helps...
    Respectfully,
    Harry

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  • Kip
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    [quote]
    Excellent info.!! Thanks.[/b]
    Does "Eagle" mean Eagle Industries? What model bags are they as the pics wont show up for me.

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  • JY
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    Hi Sergey;

    The Eagle bag shown in the article will fit the AI AW and others. The reference above is about the Eagle "Stock Pack". This item is a cheek piece with a small pack on the off side for small items of gear. The stock pack is included in the Army issue SAK(Sniper's Accessory Kit). As luck would have it I have the CD with me with photos of the "Stock Pack".

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    It's a handy item, the small pouch is good to hold lens cleaning items and such. The cheek piece itself adds little hight but the material is warmer to the touch than the bare sythetic stock in cold weather. There are 5 loops for ammo on the side, not very stealthy but they are there. The only problem is it fits the M24 and will fit the M86/89's but not anything bigger like the AI AW stock.

    Hope this answers your question.

    Take care...Jim
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  • sbrest
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    Jim,

    In reference to your last reply here. What drag bag of the first type ( simple envelope design )
    will fit the AI 1.5 stock with 26 barrel ?

    Thanks,
    Sergey

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  • JY
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    Hi Cube;

    The stock pack will not fit on the AI stock It was originally made for the M21/25 rifles, it will fit on the M24 and is included in the SAK(Sniper Accessory Kit) just being issued. And will also fit on stocks such as the McMillan McHale stock as on the M86 SWS or most standard M700 and Win/FN rifles. Same goes for the copies made by BHI and others.

    Take care...Jim

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  • Rule .308
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    FWIW - I've got one of the small Eagle bags. I thought I'd try it out and then when it wore out and I knew a little bit better what I needed, I'd get a bigger bag (and maybe better). That was a few years ago... Damn thing won't wear out, won't tear, won't break - it just does what it's supposed to day after day. There's bigger bags and bags with more gucci gear attached, but none that are better quality.

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