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  • #16
    Think it's important enough for those who are issued M9's to read.

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    "A FAMILY THAT STANDS TOGETHER AND FIGHTS TOGETHER STAYS TOGETHER" The combined Dutch Family...


    "But I've a rendezvous with Death, at midnight in some flaming town, when spring trips north again this year, and I to my pledge word am true, I shall not fail that rendezvous"

    Alan Seeger, KIA Belloy-en-Santerre 4 July 1916, Legion Entrangere, American poet.


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    • #17
      once more
      "A FAMILY THAT STANDS TOGETHER AND FIGHTS TOGETHER STAYS TOGETHER" The combined Dutch Family...


      "But I've a rendezvous with Death, at midnight in some flaming town, when spring trips north again this year, and I to my pledge word am true, I shall not fail that rendezvous"

      Alan Seeger, KIA Belloy-en-Santerre 4 July 1916, Legion Entrangere, American poet.


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      • #18
        Hope somebody responds to this:

        How is the pull on the new trigger spring? I want a heavy pull since mine is not for competition. Where did you get it?

        What is the opinion of Check Mate brand magazines? Getting hi-caps through the unit is a no-go. I was thinking of these (new) plus the Wolf +10 springs. Any thoughts?

        Might I also suggest the extended magazine release?

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        • #19
          I'm hesitatant to suggest an extended mag release on a combat gun. Just makes it easier to loose your mag.

          I heard a joke once that defined an extended mag release as "a device designed to prevent a magazine from staying seated in the weapon".

          I used them on comp guns, but stay away from them for carry and combat.
          www.precision-applications.com

          It's knowing that when I get up in the morning and my feet hit the floor, the Devil says, "Shit! He's awake!"

          Shortly before World War I, the German Kaiser was the guest of the Swiss government to observe military maneuvers. The Kaiser asked a Swiss militiaman: "You are 500,000 and you shoot well, but if we attack with 1,000,000 men what will you do?" The soldier replied: "We will shoot twice and go home."

          "There are so many Russians, and our country so small, where will we find room to bury them all?" - anonymous Finnish soldier

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          • #20
            I have one already on order, oh well, spare parts. Any word on the magazines? Need to stock up soon.

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            • #21
              My buddy that owns a gun store (former USMC Combat Engineer) had a whole mess of factory 15rd Beretta mags for cheap. Let me see if he has any left.
              www.precision-applications.com

              It's knowing that when I get up in the morning and my feet hit the floor, the Devil says, "Shit! He's awake!"

              Shortly before World War I, the German Kaiser was the guest of the Swiss government to observe military maneuvers. The Kaiser asked a Swiss militiaman: "You are 500,000 and you shoot well, but if we attack with 1,000,000 men what will you do?" The soldier replied: "We will shoot twice and go home."

              "There are so many Russians, and our country so small, where will we find room to bury them all?" - anonymous Finnish soldier

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              • #22
                Hi IS;

                The trigger pull is much smoother and, I have to guess no guages here around 8 lbs. The big plus is the new spring does not break like the crummy stock wire job does. This is not for competition unless you consider OEF or OIF competition Where did I get the pistol? Uh, they issue them. Springs? Wolff makes the springs.

                Check Mate magazines SUX. The stupid parkerizing on the inside just adds to the dragg, add a little talc like sand and they hang up solid. I have a couple stashed for a down time project to see if there's a way to make the things feed in the field, an easy way without to much specialized stuff needed. Been thinking about stripping the insides to bare metal and using a bake on teflon type finish on the inside. The teflon should act like a lube and add the + powered magazine springs should work like a charm and still look like Check Mates on the outside. Best to get Beretta magazines and be done with it, Hi Caps are legal now in the states so get some one to buy you some and up grade the springs.

                Extended mag release in soft tactical type holsters are asking for trouble, if you use one keep a Check Mate in the weapon, when you loose it it won't upset you, you're only loosing trash
                Take care...Jim
                "A FAMILY THAT STANDS TOGETHER AND FIGHTS TOGETHER STAYS TOGETHER" The combined Dutch Family...


                "But I've a rendezvous with Death, at midnight in some flaming town, when spring trips north again this year, and I to my pledge word am true, I shall not fail that rendezvous"

                Alan Seeger, KIA Belloy-en-Santerre 4 July 1916, Legion Entrangere, American poet.


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                • #23
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                  Now that is funny! Alright, no on the Check Mates. Oh, I am Stateside right now and have been since June '03. Between deployments I suppose. Two years out of Iraq is enough, I need a break.

                  I'm just gearing up for round II. I tried to get back last year, but the Army said I couldn't go with the Marines.

                  Cliff notes: Former Grunt (4 yrs), got out. Checked in two years later to go to Iraq w/ friends goofy Reserve unit. Got back didn't like it. Transfered to AZ NG. Got call to go to Iraq w/ Grunts. Me "Hell yeah." Army, "Hell no." Year later they say' "You still want to go?" Me, "Okay." Now you are all up to speed.

                  So, any other advised gear or advice in general? I have stocked up on M-16 mags (13) plus I am getting 6 HK steel mags. Got my .223 and 9mm bore snakes, leapers 3x9 AR scope, bicycle tube bands, Garmin GPS, drop pistol holster, drop mag pouch, Molle 6 mag bandoleer (modified), Surfires (3) batteries, bulbs, mounts, and filters, duck bag, Gerber, tactical sling, Oakley goggles, Binos, graphite powder gun lube, dental picks, 550, chord, all kinds of tape...

                  Are the fancy T-shirts worth the money? Any other must have gear that I haven't mentioned? What is the living conditions there? Internet? Can we get to a PX? What do I need in care packages?

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                  • #24
                    FYI for all: http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976522895.htm

                    Mr. Boyer has LOTS of factory hi-cap Italian Beretta mags. I got mine in four days. Great experience!

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                    • #25
                      Not a bad price. I'm currently mourning the loss of two PB 20 rounders, victims of a hard landing
                      "A FAMILY THAT STANDS TOGETHER AND FIGHTS TOGETHER STAYS TOGETHER" The combined Dutch Family...


                      "But I've a rendezvous with Death, at midnight in some flaming town, when spring trips north again this year, and I to my pledge word am true, I shall not fail that rendezvous"

                      Alan Seeger, KIA Belloy-en-Santerre 4 July 1916, Legion Entrangere, American poet.


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                      • #26
                        JY, I've recently seen some M9s issued to some Ft. Bragg guys, and all had the reiforced brigadier type slides, is that the way new M9s are coming or are these replacement slides? They told me those were straight out of the armorer, not personal changes.
                        They also had some small lights, with a QD mount, and plastic holsters for the pistols with the lights mounted, what is normally used / issued?
                        Thanks!

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                        • #27
                          Hi R;

                          A lot of the improvements come from "unit" funds. Many of the "ruck" SF have upgraded to the Brigadier slides and adding "tactical" lights and rails. the same for holsters and other goodies, unit funds, with the most popular the Safariland 6004 drop leg Kydex...now available in Coyote, lol!

                          The plain vanilla M9 is still standard issue with the crappy Check Mate magazines

                          take care, my friend...Jim
                          "A FAMILY THAT STANDS TOGETHER AND FIGHTS TOGETHER STAYS TOGETHER" The combined Dutch Family...


                          "But I've a rendezvous with Death, at midnight in some flaming town, when spring trips north again this year, and I to my pledge word am true, I shall not fail that rendezvous"

                          Alan Seeger, KIA Belloy-en-Santerre 4 July 1916, Legion Entrangere, American poet.


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                          • #28
                            Woo Hoo! I finally got my pistol back together with all the goodies. Here is the run down:

                            Beretta 92 Vertec
                            Wolf Springs trigger spring conversion
                            Main spring housing cap w/ lanyard loop
                            Titanium guide spring
                            Raised but not extended magazine release
                            Trijicon green sights
                            Sure Fire X200 Weapon light
                            8 Beretta factory 15 rnd mags (new) w/ Wolf Springs +10 springs
                            Tactical Tailor drop holster, 1, and 2 mag pouches
                            Gemtech lanyard
                            Grip taped front strap


                            Going shooting soon. Between the Trijicons and the light, it had better be one shot one kill! My little hot rod. Thanks for all the tips.

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                            • #29
                              Another question: the Ft. Bragg guys I mentioned run the course engaging the safety (...and of course decocking) everytime a target was not available and they had to move. Of course this is not conductive to good IPSC times, but that's another game Engaging the safety/decocker everytime you move with a M9 is safe but quite annoying due to the position of the safety and the fact that you are back to DA. Is this normal practice, or you just keep finger off the trigger if you have to move a short distance?

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                              • #30
                                My finger is always straight and off the trigger until ready to fire, period. That said, I think I would prefer to decock back to DA mode with the safety on fliped back up to fire. Too bad the safety isn't as easy to manipulate on a Beretta as it is on an M16.

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