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    http://www.snipercountry.com/Article...onTriggers.asp

    By: Paul "Pablito" Coburn

    In the U.S.A., we live in a litigious society, and for those of you who live in Rio Linda, that means fools will do really stupid crap, and then sue someone else, because "It's their fault, they made me do it!". For those of you that don't know what you're doing... STAY AWAY FROM TRIGGERS... you can hurt someone (usually someone else!)

    Adjusting triggers is something that was once an expected job by the owner of a new gun, just like adjusting the seats in your new car.

    But Remington (because of many lawsuits) takes a very dim view of adjusting their triggers... it's number "1" under Remington's "Felony list of no-no's".

    Be advised, if you adjust the trigger, and send the gun back to Remington (in the USA) for repairs, they will charge you for a new trigger (they will NOT re-adjust the old one).

    .. and finely, your mileage may vary according to road conditions. If you are new at guns, and lack experience to do internal minor repairs and parts replacement... this may not be for you. Do not do the following unless you are skilled enough to work on guns, and responsible enough to handle them safely. I'm presenting this information as "Information Only"... it is SOLELY your decision whether you have the skill and ability to use this information.

    If you have an accident, it means that you weren't skilled enough, or responsible enough, so you shouldn't have done the following, so it's not my fault, neither Sniper Country's!


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    Now on to the details
    The Remington triggers are very good, except they come with a built in lawyer, and he weighs about 9 or 10 pounds.

    You will need a bit of good quality gun oil (CLP or equivalent), and a set of small screwdrivers, and some white or red nail polish.

    Remove the barreled action from the stock.

    Looking at the gun and trigger so the safety is up, and the barrel is pointing to your right... the front of the trigger is to your right...


    The three screws are as follows...

    On your right, (the front of the trigger) the top screw, near the action, is over travel...
    The bottom screw is spring tension...
    On your left side, (the back of the trigger) is the engagement screw.

    First, break the white "Seals of God" and screw the three screws out enough so that you see several threads.

    They may be hard at first, but they are NOT staked in place. The screws and trigger body are carbon steel, and may be rusted, or they may have a sealant on them. Just break them free. Drop a teeny bit of oil on the threads. Run the screws in and out several times until the oil is in the threads, and they turn freely.

    OK, now down to business.

    Back out the spring tension screw out until there is just enough pressure to keep the trigger forward, but it's very light (4 or 5 oz's) and easy to move.

    Back out the engagement screw, (the single screw on the left) and the over-travel screw (the upper screw on your right) out, so there's play to adjust.

    Close the bolt on a cocked pin (don't pull the trigger) and VERY SLOWLY turn the engagement screw (on your left) in until the firing pin drops. Back it out about 1/3 to 1/2 of a turn. With the firing pin down, you should now feel the trigger wobble back and forth if you pull it because there is excessive over travel.

    Because the back surface of the trigger is NOT undercut, you have to adjust over-travel with the pin "down".

    Now, with the firing pin in the "fired" position, screw in the over-travel screw until it "just touches" the trigger lightly, preventing the trigger from moving... back out the over travel screw 1/4 turn. Pulling the trigger now, (with the pin "down") you should feel just the "slightest" free movement.

    Now turn in the spring tension screw (lower right) to a pull that you like... I'd strongly suggest a good trigger pull gauge, instead of guessing.

    Cock the pin and try it... it should break like glass.

    Check by:
    Slam the bolt closed a dozen times, check to see if the pin dropped each time. If the pin drops, back out the engagement screw 1/4 turn, and do again.
    Cock the pin, set the safety, pull the trigger, release the trigger, and release the safety, a dozen times... if the pin drops, increase the spring tension (shouldn't be necessary, unless you're down around 10-15 oz's, and this trigger is not reliable at that light a pull.
    Put white or red nail polish on the screws. Let dry, and put another coat on it again, and again.

    There will be no "take up slack", this is a single stage trigger, and can't be adjusted to act like a two stage.

    These triggers are easily capable of going to 24-26 oz's, and they keep the setting year after year, and I've never had to re-adjust one.
    Attached Files
    www.precision-applications.com

    It's knowing that when I get up in the morning and my feet hit the floor, the Devil says, "Shit! He's awake!"

    Shortly before World War I, the German Kaiser was the guest of the Swiss government to observe military maneuvers. The Kaiser asked a Swiss militiaman: "You are 500,000 and you shoot well, but if we attack with 1,000,000 men what will you do?" The soldier replied: "We will shoot twice and go home."

    "There are so many Russians, and our country so small, where will we find room to bury them all?" - anonymous Finnish soldier

  • #2
    how low can these triggers be set before droping the firing pin?
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    • #3
      Due to machining variances, it varies from rifle to rifle. I am usually able to get a 100% safe and reliable trigger pull in the 2 - 2.5# range.
      www.precision-applications.com

      It's knowing that when I get up in the morning and my feet hit the floor, the Devil says, "Shit! He's awake!"

      Shortly before World War I, the German Kaiser was the guest of the Swiss government to observe military maneuvers. The Kaiser asked a Swiss militiaman: "You are 500,000 and you shoot well, but if we attack with 1,000,000 men what will you do?" The soldier replied: "We will shoot twice and go home."

      "There are so many Russians, and our country so small, where will we find room to bury them all?" - anonymous Finnish soldier

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      • #4
        I noticed when getting mine down around 2lbs the firing pin can release unexpectedly, but for some strange reason i can slam the crap out of it and it will be fine, but occasionly the firing pin will just release when i close the bolt smoothly or softly? ideally i would like my trigger pull to be 1 to 1.5 lbs but dont see it happenening with this trigger. If i adjust to 2.5 lbs i have no prob at all.

        By the way thanks for the great info.
        Meet the family - accurised remington vssf II 22-250, custom weatherby markv .270win, CZ brno stainless .22lr, remington 7600 pumpy .30/06, sako trg42 .338lm, suhl 12g, rizzini 12g

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        • #5
          I wouldn't recommend doing a trigger job that light on a stock Rem700 trigger. There are numerous aftermarket triggers out there that will safely go that light (Shilen, Rifle Basix, etc).
          www.precision-applications.com

          It's knowing that when I get up in the morning and my feet hit the floor, the Devil says, "Shit! He's awake!"

          Shortly before World War I, the German Kaiser was the guest of the Swiss government to observe military maneuvers. The Kaiser asked a Swiss militiaman: "You are 500,000 and you shoot well, but if we attack with 1,000,000 men what will you do?" The soldier replied: "We will shoot twice and go home."

          "There are so many Russians, and our country so small, where will we find room to bury them all?" - anonymous Finnish soldier

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          • #6
            definetly worth looking at, probably need one for my weatherby mark v first it wont go lower than 3lbs from standard
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            • #7
              Hey Guys,
              Just a note for any who are interested, I have a Shilen in mine, and it took me a little getting used to. The trigger itself isn't bad at all, but it has a narrower trigger shoe which gives it a very different feel, as well. I actually prefer the feel of the factory trigger, and had spec'd my rifle out with a tuned factory trigger for that reason, but when the smith built it, he felt my trigger parts were substandard and installed the Shilen. I can't argue that it shoots, but it did take a little time to acclimate...Just some food for thought.
              Respectfully,
              Harry
              "It's better to live one day as a lion, than one hundred years as a sheep", Old Roman Proverb.
              "For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know", Author Unknown.
              "Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war!", Shakespeare, Julius Ceaser, Act III, Scene I.

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              • #8
                I'm with SpecOpsScout on this one. I don't like the feel of the narrow trigger on the Shilen. It's always confused me a bit: shooters have known for a long time that a wide trigger face spreads the force and makes it feel like it weighs less than it actually is. Why Shilen insists on that narrow trigger is beyond me.

                My custom stick has a factory Rem700 trigger that has been polished and tuned. It breaks like a glass rod at a hair over 2lbs. When I had it built, I specified keeping the factory trigger unit if possible. We used 'em on the M40A1's when I was in the Corps and I never had a problem with them.
                www.precision-applications.com

                It's knowing that when I get up in the morning and my feet hit the floor, the Devil says, "Shit! He's awake!"

                Shortly before World War I, the German Kaiser was the guest of the Swiss government to observe military maneuvers. The Kaiser asked a Swiss militiaman: "You are 500,000 and you shoot well, but if we attack with 1,000,000 men what will you do?" The soldier replied: "We will shoot twice and go home."

                "There are so many Russians, and our country so small, where will we find room to bury them all?" - anonymous Finnish soldier

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                • #9
                  The trigger face on my vssf 2 is wide as, it feels great but trips from 2lbs to 2.5lbs, and surprisingly not when i slam the bolt shut but when i close i normally after ive abused it to see if it will drop?

                  Should the trigger have slight free play when the firing pin is not cocked or the bolt is not in?

                  Wonder if it has anything to do with the way i adjusted it, i followed cmshoot on his instructions, could be the fact that its my first trigger job??

                  Meet the family - accurised remington vssf II 22-250, custom weatherby markv .270win, CZ brno stainless .22lr, remington 7600 pumpy .30/06, sako trg42 .338lm, suhl 12g, rizzini 12g

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                  • #10
                    nick, sounds like it's "mis-adjusted"
                    www.precision-applications.com

                    It's knowing that when I get up in the morning and my feet hit the floor, the Devil says, "Shit! He's awake!"

                    Shortly before World War I, the German Kaiser was the guest of the Swiss government to observe military maneuvers. The Kaiser asked a Swiss militiaman: "You are 500,000 and you shoot well, but if we attack with 1,000,000 men what will you do?" The soldier replied: "We will shoot twice and go home."

                    "There are so many Russians, and our country so small, where will we find room to bury them all?" - anonymous Finnish soldier

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                    • #11
                      ill need to give it another go,
                      thanks
                      Meet the family - accurised remington vssf II 22-250, custom weatherby markv .270win, CZ brno stainless .22lr, remington 7600 pumpy .30/06, sako trg42 .338lm, suhl 12g, rizzini 12g

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