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    Did any of you guys see this?

    It does look like an end run around Posse Comitatus. Does this set up a plan to us Canadian troops in the US and US troops in Canada to avoid loyalty/legal entanglements?

    Or am I just getting freaking paranoid? I really hate reading crap like this though. We do not either need nor want a North American Union. No offense to our Canadian brethren.

    http://www.northcom.mil/News/2008/021408.html

    U.S. Northern Command, Canada Command establish new bilateral Civil Assistance Plan

    Photo by U.S. Army North Public Affairs Office

    U.S. Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart, left, commander of North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command, and Canadian Air Force Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, commander of Canada Command, signed a Civil Assistance Plan that allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency. The signing took place at U.S. Army North headquarters, Fort Sam Houston, Texas, Feb. 14, 2008.

    February 14, 2008

    SAN ANTONIO, Texas — U.S. Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart, commander of North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command, and Canadian Air Force Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, commander of Canada Command, have signed a Civil Assistance Plan that allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.

    “This document is a unique, bilateral military plan to align our respective national military plans to respond quickly to the other nation's requests for military support of civil authorities,” Renuart said. “Unity of effort during bilateral support for civil support operations such as floods, forest fires, hurricanes, earthquakes and effects of a terrorist attack, in order to save lives, prevent human suffering and mitigate damage to property, is of the highest importance, and we need to be able to have forces that are flexible and adaptive to support rapid decision-making in a collaborative environment.”

    “The signing of this plan is an important symbol of the already strong working relationship between Canada Command and U.S. Northern Command,” Dumais said. “Our commands were created by our respective governments to respond to the defense and security challenges of the twenty-first century, and we both realize that these and other challenges are best met through cooperation between friends.”

    The plan recognizes the role of each nation's lead federal agency for emergency preparedness, which in the United States is the Department of Homeland Security and in Canada is Public Safety Canada. The plan facilitates the military-to-military support of civil authorities once government authorities have agreed on an appropriate response.

    U.S. Northern Command was established on Oct. 1, 2002, to anticipate and conduct homeland defense and civil support operations within the assigned area of responsibility to defend, protect, and secure the United States and its interests.

    Similarly, Canada Command was established on Feb. 1, 2006, to focus on domestic operations and to offer a single point of contact for all domestic and continental defense and security partners.

    The two domestic commands established strong bilateral ties well before the signing of the Civil Assistance Plan. The two commanders and their staffs meet regularly, collaborate on contingency planning and participate in related annual exercises.[/b]
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  • #2
    Yes, I saw that as well. I don't like it one bit. I fail to see any good in this arrangement, only many possible bad things.

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    • #3
      If there's a picture of a CDN airforce guy shaking hands with a US airforce guy I assume it is to bum a lift.

      Canada is, for the most part, so indifferent to its military needs that I'm sure the average American neighbourhood watch could keep their hands full.

      I wouldn't be too paranoid

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      • #4
        GSoD-

        Call me paranoid (or realistic).............but I see it as a setup to ignore Posse Comitatus by using forces from a neighboring country..........just a means to skirt the issue.

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        • #5
          The Posse Comitatus restriction is null and void if a governor requests Federal aid in the event of an emergency.

          So this is kind of a non-issue from that standpoint. However if we ever have an emergency big enough that we need Canadian help, that would be something.

          Jimro
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          • #6
            We had NATO EWACs patroling the US after 9/11/01, this would only speed up co-operation in any further attack, sure to come if the left wins the elections.

            Take care...Jim
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            • #7
              Here is what maybe I missed here.... Does this place the ability of the FEMA director to invite foreign troops onto US soil? Or does that order still lie only with the President?
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