RUBY
RIDGE
IV. SPECIFIC ISSUES INVESTIGATED
H. Law
Enforcement Operations at Ruby Ridge From August 22, 1992 Until
August 31, 1992.
1. Introduction
Following
the death of Deputy Marshal Degan, the FBI assumed primary jurisdiction
over the investigation of the events relating to his death. The
FBI's handling of the investigation at Ruby Ridge has been criticized
on several grounds: that the FBI's command and control of the crisis
site was not handled properly in that insufficient emphasis was
placed on negotiations to resolve the crisis; that the FBI failed
to coordinate law enforcement components properly; and that false
information was knowingly given to the media to cover up the cause
of Sammy Weaver's death, Vicki Weaver's death, and Kevin Harris'
and Randy Weaver's injuries.
Soon
after learning on August 21, 1992 about the shooting incident at
Ruby Ridge, U.S. Attorney Maurice Ellsworth authorized Assistant
U.S. Attorney Ronald Howen to travel there to assist law enforcement
personnel with legal matters. Howen arrived late in the evening
of August 21st and spent the next ten days with law enforcement
personnel who had responded to the crisis.
Questions
have been raised as to whether it was appropriate for Howen to have
been at Ruby Ridge and whether some of his activities were improper
and conflicted with his role as the federal prosecutor in the case.
Foremost among these allegations is that he was an active participant
in tactical decisions, negotiations, and searches which transformed
him into a witness in the investigation at Ruby Ridge.
2. Statement
of Facts
a. Removal
of Law Enforcement Personnel From the Mountain Following Horiuchi's
Shots
When
the personnel carriers were near the Weaver cabin delivering the
initial announcement and installing telephone communications equipment,
worsening weather conditions were reported on the hill. HRT Gold
Team leader Love reported to HRT Sniper Coordinator Hazen that visibility
was poor and getting worse and that optical equipment was beginning
to fog. Several of the snipers were suffering from hypothermia.
[FN771] Hazen recommended to HRT Commander Rogers that the sniper/observers
be removed from their positions and return to the lower command
post.[FN772]
Rogers
and Special Agent in Charge Glenn agreed to withdraw the sniper/observers
and establish an inner perimeter around the cabin area the following
morning. Glenn concluded that the weather and poor visibility made
it nearly impossible even for people with knowledge of the terrain,
like the Weaver/Harris group, to move about without being detected.
On the basis of the available intelligence, Glenn believed that
the only way that Weaver and his group could leave the cabin area
was by a road that passed through the FBI command post area. The
sniper/observers were withdrawn after dark on Saturday evening,
August 22.
During
the night, Glenn deployed FBI SWAT teams around the command post
and controlled access to the road leading to the Weaver compound.
He was confident that these measures would prevent any of the Weaver
group from fleeing.[FN774] According to Hazen, the sniper/observers
were also withdrawn for debriefings on the tactical and geographic
information they had gathered while observing the Weaver compound.[FN775]
Upon
returning to the command post after the shooting, the HRT sniper/observers
were debriefed and were instructed to document their actions and
observations in FD-302 investigative reports. Glenn had reported
the shooting incident to FBI Headquarters earlier in the evening.
b. Command
and Control Structure
The death
of Deputy Marshal Degan entailed violations of federal criminal
statutes that gave the FBI primary jurisdiction over the investigation.[FN776]
Eugene Glenn, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI's Salt Lake City
Division, was assigned primary responsibility for managing the federal
law enforcement response to the crisis. He was initially assisted
by William Gore, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI's Seattle Division.
As of August 23, Glenn was also assisted by Robin Montgomery, Special
Agent in Charge of the Portland Division.
In addition
to intelligence gathering, the primary concerns of local and federal
law enforcement were to rescue the surviving marshals, along with
the body of Deputy Marshal Degan, apprehend the subjects without
further loss of life, and prevent their reinforcement by sympathizers.
State
and local officers and a few representatives of the Marshals Service
and the border patrol were the first law enforcement officials on
the scene. two FBI agents, Larry Wages and Thelma Campos, who were
attending personal matters in the area, heard about the shooting
and responded. Soon after, a group of interested citizens began
to gather.
Following
Deputy Marshal Hunt's calls for emergency assistance, in which
he reported that a Deputy Marshall had been shot and that others
were pinned down, local law enforcement agencies responded promptly
and established a controlled access point at the bridge leading
to the Weavers' cabin. Idaho State Police officers and a dispatcher
arrived before their local commander, Captain E. Glen Schwartz
arrived at 3:00 p.m. Captain Schwartz described the command structure
as a "unified command" with each agency in charge of
its own personnel.[FN777] On August 21, 1992, Idaho Governor
Cecil Andrus declared a state of emergency in Boundary County,
proclaiming that:
the nature
of the disaster is the occurrence and the imminent threat of injury
and loss of life and property arising out of the standoff situation
in Boundary County.[FN778]
This
proclamation allowed law enforcement agencies on the scene to use
certain emergency services, such as Idaho National Guard resources.[FN779]
Although
Deputy Marshal Hunt was viewed as having the predominant law enforcement
interest because the case was his and he was responsible for the
marshals on the mountain, local law enforcement leaders believed
that Hunt's decision making capacity had diminished due to stress.
They have asserted that they would not have permitted Hunt to make
ill-advised decisions.[FN780]
Glenn
arrived at the crisis site at approximately 9:30 p.m. on Friday,
August 21, followed by Gore approximately one and a half hours later.
They both arrived before the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team (approximately
50 agents) and the Marshals Service Special Operations Group (approximately
58 agents). In Glenn's view, the Idaho State Police, commanded by
Major Strickfaden, appeared to be coordinating the law enforcement
response before his arrival. [FN781]
When
Glenn arrived, the primary goal of the law enforcement effort was
to rescue the marshals on the mountain and stabilize the situation
until additional federal resources arrived. Glen ordered that a
perimeter be established around the command post/staging area to
ensure safety, to prevent Weaver and his associates from coming
into the area during the night, and to contain a crowd of Weaver
sympathizers and supporters.[FN782}
Glenn
and Gore were unfamiliar with the crisis site. The command post/staging
area was located in a flat area at the base of the mountain on which
the Weaver cabin was located. Glenn and Gore directed FBI technical
personnel to establish telephone communications at the command post.[FN783]
Once
the command post was secure, Glenn and Gore set about gathering
information about the Weaver group. When Richard Rogers, Commander
of HRT, and Duke Smith, Associate Director of the U.S. Marshals
service, arrived early Saturday morning, August 22, Glenn and Gore
briefed them on the situation.[FN784]
The command
post log entry for August 26 shows that power to the cabin was cut
off on Saturday night, August 22. On Sunday morning, a 360 degree
inner perimeter around the Weaver cabin site and a forward command
post near the cabin were established, and they were maintained for
the remainder of the crisis.[FN785]
On August
23, Special Agent in Charge Robin Montgomery from the FBI's Portland
Division reported to the Ruby Ridge site and took charge of the
forward command post near the cabin were established, and they were
maintained for the remainder of the crisis.[FN785]
On August
23, Special Agent in Charge Robin Montgomery from the FBI's Portland
Division reported to the Ruby Ridge site and took charge of the
forward command post in alternating twelve-hour shifts with Gore.
Rogers and the hostage negotiators were also in the forward command
post with Gore and Montgomery. The forward command post was the
central point for both tactical and negotiations efforts.[FN786]
Investigative
and intelligence functions continued at the rear command post, but
the establishment of the forward command brought about a change
in the control of the massive resources gathered at Ruby Ridge.
Glenn remained at the rear or lower command post to marshal the
many law enforcement agencies, coordinate with the leaders of those
agencies, and maintain liaison with FBI Headquarters and the press.[FN787]
Glenn
retained ultimate approval authority for negotiation and tactical
efforts proposed by his subordinates. If emergency tactical action
were necessary, Glenn authorized Gore and Montgomery at the forward
command post to act. A representative of the Marshals Service was
also assigned to the forward command post to ensure immediate access
to information gathered during the previous fugitive investigation
that might assist in formulating negotiation strategies.[FN788]
c. Tactical
Operations and Discovery of Sammy Weaver's Body
On Sunday
morning, August 23, Rogers, with Glenn and Gore's approval, took
two teams of HRT personnel to the vicinity of the Weaver compound
in armored personnel carriers. Using a bull horn, Rogers made repeated
announcements to the Weaver cabin for about 30 minutes to convince
the occupants to negotiate.[FN789]
FBI Hostage
negotiator Frederick Lanceley asked to accompany Rogers, but Rogers
told him that he was not needed.[FN790] As a consequence, Lanceley
was not present during this attempt to communicate with those inside
the cabin.[FN791]
According
to Lanceley, on Sunday afternoon, after Rogers and his team returned,
Rogers told Lanceley that he had "delivered an ultimatum to
the effect that if they don't come out, [Rogers] would begin to
knock down the outbuildings and then start knocking down their house."[FN792]
Rogers asserted that he now had to knock down the buildings because
he could not back down from the ultimatum. [FN793] Lanceley told
Rogers that the destruction of the buildings would limit negotiations
strategies.[FN794]
FBI hostage
negotiator E. MacArthur Burke was astounded upon hearing that the
outbuildings were to be removed because this might escalate the
situation before negotiations had begun. Although he was aware of
the tactical advantage to their removal, he agreed with Lanceley
that it would be detrimental to the negotiations effort.[FN795]
On Sunday
evening, August 23, with the approval of Glenn, Gore, and Montgomery,
personnel carriers began to remove outbuildings, such as the birthing
shed and the water tanks, near the Weaver cabin to protect tactical
personnel, should it become necessary to mount an emergency assault
on the Weaver cabin. Removal of the outbuildings would also tighten
the inner perimeter around the cabin by removing visual and physical
obstructions to HRT and SOG personnel.[FN796]
During
the clearing of the birthing shed, the body of Sammy Weaver was
discovered unexpectedly.[FN797] There is no evidence that law enforcement
personnel knew of Sammy Weaver's death before this discovery.[FN798]
FBI negotiators
reported to the FBI's Special Operations and Research Unit on the
morning of August 24 that "the mood among the commanders and
HRT appeared to be to mount an assault on the Weaver residence no
later than the evening of 8/24".[FN799] The discovery of Sammy
weaver's body brought about renewed efforts to negotiate with the
Weaver group. The discovery also brought aggressive tactical actions,
such as removal of the outbuildings, to an end. It was believed
that the Weavers would break their silence to express their wishes
for the handling of their son's body and funeral arrangements.
However, there was no response from the Weaver cabin.[FN800]
d. Change
from Rules of Engagement to the FBI Standard Deadly Force Policy
On Wednesday,
August 26 at 10:53 a.m. (PDT), the Rules of Engagement in effect
since the arrival of the Hostage Rescue Team were revoked. At Glenn's
direction, the FBI's standard policy became the guideline for the
use of deadly force by law enforcement personnel deployed on the
cabin perimeter.[FN801]
On Sunday
evening, August 23, after Sammy Weaver's body had been discovered,
Glenn began to reevaluate the intelligence he had received at the
command post. The cabin's occupants had not acted aggressively since
the apparent attempt to fire on the helicopter about 24 hours earlier.
A personnel carrier had been to the front of the cabin and had not
been challenged, and outbuildings had been demolished without fire
from the cabin. An inner perimeter had been established, and booby
traps had not been found. Glenn believed that law enforcement personnel
on the scene were adequately protected. He concluded that those
in the cabin were not as threatening as originally believed or that
their resistance was weakening. He did not entirely dismiss their
propensity for violence, but concluded that the threat had diminished
by Sunday evening.[FN802]
For these
reasons, Glenn changed the Rules of Engagement to the FBI's standard
deadly force policy. He did not solicit Headquarters' advice on
the change because it was not necessary. [FN803]
Glenn
stated that he made the change some time around midday Monday,
August 24. This contradicts the HRT sniper log, which shows that
the change occurred on Wednesday, August 26. The Strategic Information
and Operations Center ("SIOC") Log at FBI Headquarters
reflects the change on August 26 at 12:30 p.m. EDT.
Within
a day or two of the discovery of Sammy Weaver's body, Glenn told
Gore that FBI agents assigned to the crime scene had reported that
some of the early assumptions about the Degan shooting were in question
and had not been substantiated by the crime spans. Glenn also told
Gore that the debriefings of the marshals involved in the shooting
and a review of the BATF case had raided other questions. According
to Gore, the entire predicate of the federal effort was in question.
Gore observed that the crisis situation had been stable for several
days and that the Weaver group had not engaged in aggressive action.
Glenn then decided to return to the FBI's standard policy on the
use of deadly force. [FN804]
Robin
Montgomery arrived at the crisis site on August 23 and learned of
the Rules of Engagement. Montgomery believed that the Rules were
close to an authorization to shoot on sight. He did not believe
that the Rules supported the negotiation effort, and he discussed
them with Glenn, Gore, Duke Smith of the Marshals Service, and possibly
two other members of the Marshals Service. Shortly thereafter, the
Rules of Engagement were changed. [FN805]
Rogers
stated that by Wednesday the level of threat had diminished because
the subjects had fired no shots since the original firefight and
they had not committed any aggressive acts. HRT personnel had established
well protected positions, completely surrounding the Weaver cabin.
The subjects posed no immediate threat, and consequently the Rules
of Engagement were changed to the FBI's standard deadly force policy.
Rogers denied that the revocation of the Rules was related to the
discovery of Sammy Weaver's body.[FN806]
According
to an entry in the FBI SIOC Log at Headquarters, on Wednesday, August
26, 1992, at 12:30 p.m. (EDT), Potts and Glenn agreed to change
the Rules of Engagement to FBI standard deadly force policy, effective
1:00 p.m. (EDT).[FN807] There is no record of the decision to change
the Rules of Engagement in the FBI's command post log at Ruby Ridge.
The HRT sniper/observer log shows that Rogers changed the Rules
of Engagement to the FBI standard deadly force policy on Wednesday,
August 26, at 10:53 a.m. and that each sniper/observer position
acknowledged the change at 10:54 a.m.[FN808]
e. Evidence
of Vicki Weaver's Death
On Friday,
August 28, at approximately 5:00 p.m., Bo Gritz, a nongovernmental
negotiator, started a series of discussions that ultimately led
to the resolution of the crisis without additional violence. Gritz
was the first person to be told that Weaver's wife was dead and
the first aside from those in the cabin to observe Vicki Weaver's
body.
Law enforcement
personnel state that the initial evidence that Vicki Weaver was
dead came in the first few moments of the first conversation Gritz
had with Randy Weaver on August 28. [G.J.]
[FN809]
This conversation also confirmed that Harris had been wounded by
HRT rifle shots on August 22. At the conclusion of the conversation,
Gritz briefed Rogers and Glenn. Later that day, he also informed
a group of sympathizers gathered near the crisis site.
The efforts
of Gritz and Jack McLamb, another nongovernmental negotiator, were
successful, and on Sunday, August 30, between mid-morning and noon,
Harris agreed to surrender, an important development for several
reasons, not the least of which was that for the first time Gritz
talked face-to-face with Randy Weaver. When Gritz and McLamb met
Harris at the rear door of the residence and helped hi down the
stairs, the cabin door opened, exposing Weaver and the interior.
Later,
Gritz saw Vicki Weaver's body on the kitchen floor, partially under
a table.[FN810] A cloth had been placed over the top half of the
body, leaving the lower half exposed. The feet were positioned near
the front door, with the head and torso toward the interior. The
manner in which the body was positioned was consistent with a backward
fall from the front doorway. It appeared to Gritz that the body
had not been moved after the shooting.
[G.J.]
[FN811]
A review
by the FBI of all audio and video tapes of the events at Ruby Ridge
shows that no information had been received by the FBI or other
law enforcement personnel about Vicki Weaver's death before Gritz'
conversation with Randy Weaver on August 28. Interviews of personnel
from the FBI, U.S. Marshals Service, Idaho State Police, Bureau
of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, and local agencies at the scene
during the standoff do not reveal any earlier knowledge of Vicki
Weaver's death. No notations concerning Vicki Weaver's death were
found in any official log of the events or in any other records
made during the standoff. [FN812]
f. Initial
Steps Toward Negotiation
On August
22, Glenn and Rogers focused much of their energy on the procurement
and outfitting of two armored personnel carriers with a telephone
and enough line to reach the command post from one Weaver compound,
a distance of approximately one mile.
Glenn
believed that resolution of the crisis through dialogue and negotiations
was the most desirable and usually the safest outcome. He stressed
that the FBI tried every proposed negotiation option from the beginning
of the crisis.[FN813]
Gore
also believed that the objective was peaceful resolution of the
crisis. In his view, tactical personnel first had to establish a
means to communicate with the Weaver group in the cabin, which did
not have a telephone. The objective of the operations plan was to
establish a perimeter for containment of the crisis site and to
get close enough to establish communications. [FN814]
FBI senior
hostage negotiator, Frederick Lanceley was notified of the situation
at Ruby Ridge Friday afternoon, August 21. He traveled with the
main group of HRT personnel from the Washington, D.C. area to Idaho,
arriving early in the morning on Saturday, August 22. He received
no request for consultation on negotiations until mid-afternoon
Saturday, August 22, when he was called to the command post and
asked to write a negotiations addendum to the proposed operations
plan. He was not consulted before the submission of the initial
plan, which FBI Headquarters rejected because it did not contain
a negotiations component.[FN815]
Early
in the crisis, Lanceley was not a party to the discussions among
command personnel. Nevertheless, he believed that they intended
to resolve the crisis tactically. He was unaware of discussions
between Glenn and other command personnel concerning negotiations.
He strongly criticized the tactical actions taken, and he regretted
not being more aggressive in voicing his objections on Saturday,
August 22, and again on Sunday evening, August 23, when he opposed
removal of the outbuildings. [FN816]
The initial
negotiations strategy was to approach the Weaver cabin, read a surrender
statement over a loudspeaker, and attempt to resolve the crisis
through the surrender of the Weaver group. The surrender announcement
was to be read after tactical personnel had established a 360-degree
perimeter around the Weaver compound. If the Weaver group did not
surrender following the announcement, a hostage phone was to be
delivered and telephone wire was to be laid down the mountain from
the cabin to the command post.
Immediately
after Horiuchi's shots, HRT Commander Richard Rogers decided to
drive two armored personnel carriers to the cabin area to deliver
a telephone and establish communications with those inside the cabin.[FN817]
When the carriers were within 30 to 50 feet of the cabin, Lanceley
made the following surrender announcement at approximately 6:30
p.m. on Saturday night:
Mr. Weaver,
this is Fred Lanceley of the FBI. You should understand that we
have warrants for the arrest of yourself and Mr. Harris. I would
like you to accept a telephone so that we can talk and work out
how you will come out of the house without further violence. I would
like you or one of your children to come out of the house, unarmed,
pick up the telephone and return to the house.[FN818]
There
was no response to Lanceley's message. The telephone was placed
approximately twenty yards from the cabin. Both carriers left, laying
wire for the phone as they returned down the mountain. Continuous
attempts to contact the Weaver group by ringing the telephone were
made throughout the night. There was no response.
g. Continuing
Efforts of the FBI Hostage Negotiators
In mid-morning,
Sunday, August 13, following the return of the HRT sniper/observers
to their positions, Rogers took the two carriers back to the
position near the Weaver cabin where they had been the previous
night. The telephone was in the same position they had left it
the night before. This required all communication with the cabin
to be made by bullhorn or megaphone. Rogers spoke to the group
in the cabin for approximately 30 minutes encouraging them "to come out, pick up the phone,
establish dialogue, and let's move on with this and establish some
kind of communications". [FN819] Rogers claims to have heard
no response from the Weaver cabin.
Two assault
teams were deployed from the carriers to establish a 360-degree
cordon around the cabin. According to Rogers, the assault personnel
could not be seen from the cabin. After this deployment, between
20 and 21 assault personnel were around the cabin continuously until
the resolution of the crisis on August 31.[FN820]
The nature
of Commander Rogers' message to the Weaver group on Sunday morning
is at issue. According to Lanceley, before Rogers and his team ascended
the mountain, Lanceley asked Rogers if Lanceley could accompany
him to the cabin area. Rogers told Lanceley that he would not be
needed.[FN821]
[G.J.]
[G.J.]
[FN822]
[G.J.]
There
was no response from the cabin.[FN823]
During
Bo Gritz' discussions with the Weaver group later in the week,
Weaver and his daughters told Gritz that they had developed an
intense hatred for Lanceley because of remarks directed to Vicki
Weaver and questions he asked about what they were having for
breakfast. Weaver said these remarks "pissed them off" and strengthened
their resolve in the cabin."[FN824]
On August
21, the HRT supervisors told behavioral scientists in the FBI's
Special Operations and Research Unit about the HRT deployment and
provided them with the limited information available. On August
23, the behavioral scientists were given incomplete additional information.
When FBI Supervisory Special Agent Clint Van Zandt developed the
profile, he was not aware that shots had been fired on August 22;
that Vicki Weaver had been killed [FN825]; or that anyone had been
wounded. He said that the shooting incident would affect the way
in which the Weaver family perceived attempts by the government
to negotiate.[FN826]
The behavioral
scientists sent an assessment to the crisis site on August 24. This
assessment included several observations and suggestions for dealing
with the Weaver group: the Weavers will not trust negotiators connected
to the federal government; Randy Weaver's resolve would be strengthened
if he has contact with local supporters; third parties should be
considered to assist the negotiations; the Weaver group, including
Vicki Weaver, her children, and Harris, could be expected to meet
any attempt to enter the residence with armed resistance; if Vicki
Weaver believed that efforts to overwhelm them physically or otherwise
drive the Weavers from their home would be successful, she could
be expected to kill the children and commit suicide; as those inside
the cabin became fatigued, the Weaver group could resort to a suicide
attack directed against federal law enforcement officials, if they
believed the perimeter was too close to the cabin.
On Tuesday,
August 25, FBI negotiators continued their efforts, which included
statements directed at Vicki Weaver and expressing concern for the
family's welfare. The Weaver group was repeatedly asked to surrender,
and they were assured that they would not be harmed. There was to
response.[FN827] The command post log states that water to the cabin
was cut off on August 25.
The first
contact with Randy Weaver occurred on Wednesday, August 26. In
mid-morning, Lanceley told Weaver that the personnel carrier
would approach the cabin to transfer the telephone to the robot
and that the robot would approach the cabin with the telephone
to improve communications weaver was also told that the robot
would try to push the telephone through a cabin window, breaking
the cabin window in the process. Weaver shouted "Get the fuck out of here" and
made other statements that could not be understood. In the afternoon,
Weaver said that he would not take the telephone.
h. Efforts
of Nongovernmental Negotiators
[G.J.]
[FN828]
[G.J.]
[FN829]
[G.J.]
[FN830]
On Friday,
August 28, Marnis Joy again unsuccessfully tried to establish contact
with her brother. Later that day, Randy Weaver stated that he would
talk to Bo Gritz.[FN831] Glenn approached Gritz, and he offered
to assist in negotiating with Weaver. Gritz convinced Glenn that
because Gritz and Weaver had a common background in the Special
Forces, Gritz had a better chance of talking to Weaver than anyone
else on site. After conferring with Rogers and Headquarters, Glenn
agreed to Gritz' participation. [FN832]
On Friday
afternoon, Gritz was briefed by Rogers and FBI negotiators. At
dusk, he went up the mountain toward the Weaver cabin.[FN833]
After trying unsuccessfully to communicate with Weaver using
the robot and then a bullhorn from the personnel carrier, Gritz
walked to the cabin. Through a window, he began to talk to Weaver.
When Gritz asked if everyone was "OK," Weaver said, "No...My wife was
shot and killed last Saturday."[FN834] At that time Gritz
also learned that Weaver and Harris had been wounded. [FN835]
Law enforcement
components at Ruby Ridge told us that they first learned that Weaver,
Kevin Harris, and Vicki Weaver had been shot and that Vicki Weaver
was dead from Gritz' conversation with Weaver on August 28.[FN836]
On Saturday
morning, August 19, Gritz received permission to return to the Weaver
residence with Jackie Brown, a friend of the Weaver family, and
Chuck Sandelin, a local minister. Weaver yelled at Sandelin to get
off the property. Sandelin left and was not used in negotiations
again.[FN837]
Rogers
tried to discourage Jackie Brown from approaching the cabin. According
to Brown, Rogers told her that, if she did not come out of the Weaver
cabin within a reasonable time, he would assume that she had joined
the Weavers or had been taken hostage and that HRT may have to come
in to rescue her.[FN838]
Gritz
and Brown went to the cabin. Gritz spoke throughout the day with
Weaver, his daughters, and Harris through the cabin wall. Gritz
believed by the sound of Harris' voice that he was in need of medical
attention. In addition to suggesting that Harris needed medical
attention, Gritz conversed casually with Weaver about the military,
spoke philosophically to him, and prayed with him. [FN839]
On Sunday
morning, Gerald McLamb, a retired Phoenix police officer who was
assisting Gritz in his campaign for President, began assisting Gritz
in the negotiations. Both negotiators focused their conversations
with Weaver and Harris on Harris' need for medical attention. In
mid-morning, Harris decided to surrender.[FN840]
Gritz
resumed conversations with Weaver, who agreed to the removal of
Vicki Weaver's body from the cabin. When Gritz and Brown returned
to the cabin with a body bag, Gritz wore a transmitting device that
allowed the forward command post to monitor his conversation. For
security reasons, Rogers insisted on this precaution. According
to Mr. Gritz, Vicki Weaver's body was positioned in the location
or very near the location where she fell at the time of her death.
Brown and Gritz carried Vicki Weaver's body to the forward command
post.[FN841]
After
delivering the body, Gritz saw Brown return to the cabin with some
water and begin cleaning blood from the floor. Brown reported
that, at her request, she was given two five gallon buckets of
water, three white bath towels, and a roll of paper towels. Brown
said she cleaned Vicki Weaver's blood from the cabin floor because
she did not want the Weaver girls to have "to deal with cleaning
the blood of their mother."[FN842]
Gritz
resumed speaking with Weaver and learned that the Weaver family
was convinced that the law enforcement personnel wanted to kill
each of them.[FN843] Weaver told Gritz that he wanted to surrender,
but that his daughters would not let him. While in the cabin Gritz
noted the armaments available to the Weavers and the configuration
of the cabin structure. He relayed this information to Rogers.[FN844]
According
to Gritz at some point on Sunday, Rogers told him that, regardless
of the day's events, HRT was going to assault the residence on
Monday and that the assault would involve blowing out the windows
and doors. Gritz disagreed with this plan and was disturbed because
he felt negotiations were going well and because he was concerned
about the possibility of injuring those in the cabin. Gritz discussed
strategy with Rogers that involved "physically taking down"
Weaver and his daughters, if an assault was initiated, to protect
them from injuries.[FN845] both Gritz and McLamb felt uncomfortable
with the assault strategy, but agreed it was the only way to protect
the Weavers from being "killed in a tactical assault by HRT."[FN846]
At trial, Rogers testified that he vetoed an arrangement with Gritz
and McLamb to overpower Weaver, if he did not surrender. [FN847]
On Monday,
Gritz and McLamb returned to the Weaver residence. Gritz had the
robot and the APC move away from the
cabin.
After contacting attorney Gerry Spence, Gritz told Randy Weaver
that Spence would represent him. Gritz also carried a handwritten
note from Assistant U.S. Attorney Howen to Weaver that agreed to
allow Weaver to present his account of the situation to a grand
jury. The Weaver family surrendered on August 31. [FN848]
i. Decision
to Send Howen to Ruby Ridge
In the
afternoon of August 21, U.S. Marshal Michael Johnson informed U.S.
Attorney Ellsworth about the shooting at Ruby Ridge.[FN849] Shortly
thereafter, Ellsworth informed Howen, the Assistant U.S. attorney
to whom the Weaver matter had been assigned, about the incident.
The Marshals Service gave Ellsworth and Howen an additional briefing.[FN850]
Based on this information, Ellsworth and Howen believed that
a team of marshals had been involved in an undercover operation
at Ruby Ridge, that there had been a confrontation in which Deputy
Marshal Degan had been killed in an exchange of gunfire, and
that several marshals were still "pinned down" at the
scene of the shooting.[FN851]
After
having been apprised of the crisis, Howen drafted an application
for a search warrant with a supporting affidavit. [FN852] Howen
soon realized that it would be difficult to draft this affidavit
as well as subsequent applications in Boise when the supporting
factual information was 400 miles away at Ruby Ridge. Howen suggested
to Ellsworth that he travel to Ruby Ridge. Ellsworth agreed.[FN853]
Ellsworth
envisioned that, at Ruby Ridge, Howen would assist in drafting applications
for search warrants and supporting affidavits, as well as prepare
applications for electronic surveillance. He did not intend that
Howen play an investigative or tactical role.[FN854] Although Ellsworth
did not recall giving Howen specific directives, he noted that the
standing directive in his office was that assistants should not
engage in activities that would make them a witness in a case.[FN855]
Howen believed that his presence at the scene would allow him to
see matters first hand and prepare his case. In addition, Howen
considered himself to be the representative of the United States
Attorney and as such responsible for reporting to him about events
at the scene.[FN856]
j. Howen's
Activities at Ruby Ridge
At Ruby
Ridge, Howen was involved in preparing criminal complaints, applications
for arrest warrants, search warrants, and emergency electronic
surveillance applications with supporting affidavits.[FN857]
He denied that he assumed an investigative role or that he directed
the activities of the FBI. Howen insisted that he did not conduct
any interviews while at Ruby Ridge.[FN858] Nonetheless, Howen
conceded that he was not a mute observer. For example, Howen
was present at the Boundary County Sheriff's Office when Deputy
Marshals Roderick and Cooper were interviewed. Other than asking
a few questions, Howen stated that he was not an active participant
in these interviews and he was unable to recall if he took notes.[FN859]
Howen said that at these interview he "basically the marshals
and asked question, but he did not consider these exchanges to
be interviews.[FN861]
Howen
denied being involved in formulating strategy or participating in
negotiations between law enforcement personnel and Weaver. However,
he did write one of the notes sent to Weaver during the negotiations.[FN862]
FBI Agent Rampton told investigators that Howen was not involved
in the negotiations process and that Howen told him that he should
remain separated from that process. [FN863]
On August
24, Howen was present at the search of the Y. [FN864] Special Agent
Venkus told investigators that he invited Howen to go on the search
and that Howen did not find any evidence.[FN865] Howen also participated
in the walk-throughs that occurred later in the week of August 24.
With the exception of the walk-through with Deputy Marshal Norris,
in which Howen participated completely, Howen believed that he only
participated in parts of the walk-throughs. He could not recall
if he took notes.[FN866] However, he conceded that he may have taken
notes during the searches and walk-throughs when he heard something
of interest.[FN867] Special Agent Wayne Manis recalled that Howen
participated in the walk-through with Hunt and that Howen asked
questions and took notes. Manis thought that Howen's conduct was
appropriate.[FN868] Special Agent George Calley recalled Howen as
a member of the grou that participated on an August 30 walk-
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Finally,
the profile developed by the FBI's behavioral sciences personnel
was based on incomplete information, thus leading to inappropriate
negotiation strategy. Initially, the FBI Special Operations and
Research Unit was not informed of the HRT rifle shots fired on August
22 or of the fact that Harris might have been wounded. According
to the behavioral scientists who compiled the profile, the shooting
incident would affect the way the Weaver family perceived negotiations.
The scientists reported that their assessment would have been different,
had they been told that shots had been fired and that someone might
have been wounded. [FN901] This information was critical to the
development of an accurate profile of Randy Weaver.
The failure
of on-site supervisors to communicate accurate information appears
to have had a negative impact on the attempt to resolve the crisis
through negotiation.
(2) Balance
of Tactical and Negotiation Strategies
In a
crisis situation in which a deliberate assault option is considered
a necessary part of overall strategy, a written operational plan
for the assault must be submitted to the FBI Headquarters for approval.
On the other hand, emergency tactical operation, whether or not
they will contribute to the ultimate resolution of the crisis, are
the responsibility of both the Special Agents in Charge and the
HRT command structure at the crisis site.
FBI hostage
negotiator Lanceley was critical of FBI crisis management at Ruby
Ridge. When he attended Rogers' initial briefing, he was surprised
and shocked by the Rules of Engagement and did not believe them
to be consistent with the FBI's standard deadly force policy. They
were the most severe rules he had seen in hundreds of prior crises.
Lanceley described the situation:
[T]here
was a barricaded subject at the top of a mountain, no hostages,
family present and plenty of cover for perimeter personnel. The
[Deputy Marshal] were no longer pinned down and the subject was
barricaded at a location which had few of the problems inherent
to crises that one would encounter in an urban setting. there had
been on gunfire since the previous morning at the time of the firefight
with the [Deputy Marshals].[FN902]
Lanceley
told this inquiry that, when he heard Rogers tell the group that
this would be "no long siege," Lanceley knew that Rogers
did not intend to engage in negotiations. Following the briefing,
Lanceley conveyed his perception to Rogers and told officer in the
HRT command post. Rogers' response, "good," confirmed
Lanceley's belief that there would be no negotiations.[FN903]
When
he arrived at the command post, Lanceley told Special Agent in Charge
Glenn that he was available and proceeded to work on intelligence
gathering. Lanceley withdrew from the management structure and was
not party to the discussions of command personnel, who he believed
intended to resolve the crisis tactically. Lanceley is not aware
of discussion among Glenn and other command personnel which considered
a negotiations strategy because he was not consulted before the
rejection of the operations plan.[FN904] After the plan had been
rejected in mid-afternoon on August 22, Lanceley was called to the
command post and asked to write an addendum. He understood FBI Headquarters
had rejected the operations plan because it did not contain a negotiation
component.
Lanceley
strongly criticized the tactical actions taken, despite his absence
from meetings in which command personnel discussed and approved
strategy. Lanceley told this inquiry that he regretted not being
more aggressive on August 22 and again on August 23, when he chose
not to voice objections to Glenn about removing the outbuildings.[FN905]
Another
FBI Hostage negotiator, E. MacArthur Burke, believed that it was
Lanceley's responsibility, as senior FBI negotiator, to press the
issue of negotiation. Burke concluded that negotiators and SWAT
personnel are highly trained and Special Agents in Charge are not
as well prepared to handle the often opposing forces weighing in
favor of tactical or negotiated resolutions. Burke believed that
the negotiation-free operations order showed that the negotiation
and tactical elements of the Ruby Ridge response were considerably
out of balance.[FN906]
In contrast
to Burke, FBI negotiator Wilson Lima spoke of Glenn's commitment
to establishing communications with the Weaver cabin from his arrival
on the evening of August 21. The next morning, Glenn agreed that
a phone should be given to the Weaver group.[FN907]
We are
aware that the structure of the HRT and its impressive machinery
may tend to overtake the negotiators' role in a crisis situation
where an inexperienced commander is in charge. Such a charge has
arisen in this case. The lack of balance between the negotiation
and tactical efforts created an atmosphere supporting a tactical
resolution from the very beginning.
The strong
influence of the HRT management team at the scene is reflected in
the way Bo Gritz' participation at the crisis site was finally authorized.
According to Gritz, Glenn told him that before Glenn would authorize
his participation, he would have to confer with Rogers and FBI Headquarters.
There is no evidence that Lanceley was consulted before Gritz was
permitted to join the effort to resolve the crisis.[FN908]
From
the information gathered during this inquiry, it appears that no
operations plan was ever approved throughout the entire siege. Unfortunately,
FBI records provided during this inquiry do not contain all the
operations plans. The records are so incomplete that we can not
verify this conclusion.
In our
opinion, the available records reflect insufficient consideration
of negotiation strategy as compared to tactical approaches.[FN909]
We have been told that the lack of a negotiation component in the
initial operation plan did not reflect a lack of intent to negotiate,
but the understanding that tactical personnel had to establish communications
with the Weaver cabin before negotiations could begin. We have been
told that the first objective of the operations plan was to establish
a perimeter containing the crises site and to get close enough to
establish communications.[FN910]
[G.J.]
[FN911
-- G.J.]
While
we credit the argument that it was necessary to secure the site
before negotiations could commence, we find much evidence that a
negotiation strategy was not the highest priority of the FBI crisis
management team. We note the following: the failure to consult with
a negotiations expert while formulating the initial operations plan;
the failure to bring an FBI negotiator along on Rogers' mission
to the cabin on Sunday morning; the failure to inform adequately
FBI behavioral scientists that shots had been fired and that someone
in the cabin might have been wounded; and repeated misinformation
form the site that shots had been fired from the cabin on August
22. These facts give weight to the complaint that the management
team favored a tactical strategy over a negotiation strategy to
resolve the crisis. We find that position disturbing and look to
the FBI to establish a mechanism to ensure a more even balance between
the two strategies in the future.
d. Evidence
of Vicki Weaver's Death
It has
been alleged that law enforcement officials knew that Vicki Weaver
was dead before Randy Weaver spoke with Bo Gritz on August 28. The
allegation accuses the FBI of covering up its knowledge of Vicki
Weaver's death in order to conceal that it intentionally shot and
killed her. We find no factual support for that position and find
that the allegation is totally without merit.
The foundation
for the allegation is speculation. For example, questions have been
raised as to why during the electronic monitoring of conversations
inside the Weaver cabin did law enforcement personnel not become
suspicious when Vicki Weaver's voice was not heard. In our view
this can be explained by the poor quality of the audio recordings
and by the fact that 16 year-old Sara Weaver's voice may have been
mistaken for her mother's.
There
were also unconfirmed reports of something
resembling
a body bag on the back porch of the Weaver cabin. This, according
to the allegation, was another indication that law enforcement
had earlier knowledge of Vicki Weaver's death. A deputy marshal
at the scene reported that he was told by an unidentified individual
that "there was something wrapped on the back porch that could possibly
be a body, and there was a `smell of death'. It was related to me
as adult size." [FN912] The marshal believed that if such
a bag were on the back porch, it contained the body of Kevin Harris
not Vicki Weaver.[FN913] This would be a reasonable assumption
on the part of the marshal in light of Horiuchi's report that he
may have shot Harris with his second shot.
It is
the conclusion of this inquiry that law enforcement personnel did
not know of Vicki Weaver's death before Friday, August 28 when Randy
Weaver informed Bo Gritz.
e. Howen's
Activities at Ruby Ridge
Howen
was present throughout the crisis at Ruby Ridge. We find nothing
inappropriate about his presence or his conduct. Indeed, considering
the remoteness of the Weaver property and the need for expeditious
applications for search warrants and Title III authority, we believe
that there was a legitimate need for a representative of the U.S.
Attorney to be at Ruby Ridge. Most individuals questioned that it
was appropriate for Howen to be a Ruby Ridge and observed no improper
conduct.
As the
prosecutor in the case, Howen had an understandable interest in
learning about the shootings at Ruby Ridge, as well as becoming
familiar with the evidence. He was present at some of the interviews
of the marshals, but primarily as an observer. The fact that he
may have asked some questions and may have taken some notes was
not improper. No one characterized Howen as orchestrating or controlling
the interviews. Special Agent Caster reported seeing Howen take
the marshals aside and talk to them but he had no knowledge of what
was discussed.
The only
suggestion that Howen may have been a more active participant came
from Gore's impression after talking to an agent. Such an impression
is not evidence of prosecutorial misconduct. Although others reported
Howen talking to individuals on the scene and taking notes, there
was no evidence that these conversations were improper. Indeed,
Howen needed to obtain information to draft necessary legal documents.
Furthermore, as the persecutor in the case, it is understandable
and appropriate that Howen took notes of matters that would assist
him in preparing the case.
With
the exception of drafting legal documents for search warrants and
Title III authority, there was no evidence that Howen was in a position
of control at Ruby Ridge or that he exercised a decisionmaking function.
No evidence was discovered that Howen had any role in the decision
to deploy HRT or in the formulation or modification of the Rules
of Engagement. Nor was there any evidence that he was involved in
tactical or operational planning or decisions or in developing or
implementing negotiation strategy.
Similarly,
there is no evidence that Howen acted improperly at walk-throughs
and searches or that he controlled the searches or selected the
investigative methodology. Indeed, Special Agent Davis believed
that Howen tried not to interfere with the investigations. Although
Howen may have made a few suggestions as to materials the investigators
should seize, these suggestions were not orders and appear to have
been made to assist the agents conducting the search. The advice
Howen provided at these searches appears to have been solicited
and was limited to the specific inquiry made. Our investigation
uncovered no evidence that Howen's actions impeded investigators
at the searches.
We believe
that, in the future, serious consideration should be given to including
a representative from the U.S. Attorney's Office to law enforcement
teams responding to crises like Ruby Ridge. The representative could
assist law enforcement personnel in many matters such as participating
in resolving the controversy and providing legal advice about issues
arising during the crises.
We recognize,
however, that in many instances the representative should not be
the attorney responsible for prosecuting the case because this could
lead to the charge that the prosecutor was a witness to the critical
events at issue. With that caveat, we believe that many of the issues
a Ruby Ridge could have been avoided, if a member of the U.S. Attorney's
Office had been a more active participant in the events.
4. Conclusion
We believe
that questionable decisions by HRT managers unintentionally contributed
to circumstances that required removal of HRT personnel form the
mountain overlooking the Weaver cabin on August 22 after the two
rifle shots were fired.
The FBI
management team favored a tactical strategy and gave insufficient
consideration to negotiations as a means to resolve the crisis.
Negotiation experts at the site were not adequately informed and
consulted during the crisis. The failure of onsite supervisors to
communicate accurate information to the FBI's behavioral sciences
personnel appears to have had a negative impact on attempts to resolve
the crisis through negotiation. the late decision to use third party
non-governmental negotiators was a sound management decision that
displayed flexibility on the part of FBI management. Finally, Howen's
conduct was proper and consistent with the roe of a federal prosecutor.
Indeed, it may have been advisable for a member of the U.S. Attorney's
Office to have participated more actively in some of the events
at Ruby Ridge, thereby possibly avoiding some of the problems that
arose.
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771 Sworn
Statement of Lester Hazen, November 19, 1993, at 13-14. HRT personnel
did not bring their "cold weather package" that included
clothing better suited for the conditions because HRT supervisors
did not anticipate cold weather in August. See Sworn Statement
of William Luthin, November 18, 1993, at 3.
772 Hazen
Sworn Statement, November 19, 1993, at 13-14.
773 HRT
Commander Rogers testified that he originally planned to keep the
sniper/observers on the mountain until 10:00 p.m. or midnight. Because
of the weather, he ordered them off the mountain at approximately
8:00 p.m. Rogers Trial Testimony, June 2, 1993, at 78.
774 Glenn
Sworn Statement, January 12, 1994, at 24-26.
775 Hazen
Sworn Statement, November 19, 1993, at 14.
776 Local
authorities maintained jurisdiction over the investigation of the
other deaths and injuries that occurred at Ruby Ridge.
777 FD-302
Interview of E. Glen Schwartz, October 21, 1993, at 4. Major Edwin
Strickfaden of the Idaho State Police assumed command of his personnel
upon his arrival some time between 8:30 and 9:00 p.m. Strickfaden
stated that Glenn arrived about the same time he arrived. The Idaho
State Police had about 50 people at or near the crisis site. This
included additional patrols in nearby Bonners Ferry, Idaho who were
placed there at the request of city officials. FD-302 Interview
of Edwin Strickfaden, October 7, 1993, at 4.
778 See
Undated Proclamation signed by Idaho Governor Cecil Andrus, August
21, 1992.
779 However,
it should be noted that the delay in deployment of the HRT sniper/observers
could be attributed in part to the refusal of the Governor's office
to release armored personnel carriers to the site.
780 For
example, Captain Schwartz stated that Hunt wanted to take some
officers and rescue the remaining marshals. Schwartz and tow
deputy sheriffs talked Hunt out of this with a little "arm twisting." Schwartz
FD-302, October 21, 1993, at 3.
781 Glenn
Sworn Statement, January 12, 1994, at 2-9.
782 Id.
at 9. Glenn and Gore ordered the Salt Lake City and Seattle SWAT
teams to establish the perimeter. Sworn Statement of William Gore,
November 3, 1993, at 4-5.
783 Id.
784 Id.
at 5-6.
785 Rogers
Trial Testimony, June 2, 1993, at 82-90.
786 Glenn
Sworn Statement, January 12, 1994, at 20.
787 Id.
at 20-21.
788 Id.
at 20.
789 Rogers
testified that he was trying to "get them to come out, pick
up the phone, establish a dialogue, and let's move on with this
and establish some kind of communications." Rogers Trial Testimony,
June 2, 1993, at 82.
790 Lanceley
FD-302, October 19, 1993 at 4.
791 Rogers
Trial Testimony, June 2, 1993, at 82-83.
792 Lanceley
FD-302, October 19, 1993, at 5.
793 Id.
794 Id.
795 FD-302
Interview of E. MacArthur Burke, October 5, 1993, at 2.
796 Rogers
Trial Testimony, June 2, 1993, at 94.
797 Glenn
stated that the discovery of Sammy Weaver's body was the first evidence
that anyone in the cabin had been injured. Glenn Sworn Statement,
January 12, 1994, at 28-29. This is inconsistent with HRT reports
that Horiuchi's second shot might have hit an adult male.
798 Rogers
Trial Testimony, June 2, 1993, at 106. The only evidence that law
enforcement knew that Sammy Weaver had been struck during the
exchange of gunfire of August 21 is the interview of Marshals
Service Director Hudson, who stated that Deputy Director Twomey
informed him that "it was believed that Sammy [Weaver] had been wounded." FD-302
Interview of Henry Hudson, November 15, 1993, at 4. Twomey reported
that he told Hudson there was no indication Sammy had been shot.
See FD-302 Interview of John Twomey, November 26, 1993, at 3.
None of the FBI personnel at Ruby Ridge appears to have known
that Sammy Weaver had been wounded or killed during the fire
fight on August 21. Initial reports of the location of the wounds
on Sammy Weaver's body were incorrect. For example, the Marshals
Service Crisis center Log contains an entry on Sunday night that
gunshot wounds were discovered on his head and left breast. An
entry, less than two hours later, corrects the information, explaining
that he had been shot once in the back and once in the arm. Crisis
Center Log, August 23, 1992, at 11:03 p.m. (EDT) and August 24,
1992, at 12:48 a.m. (EDT).
799 FD-302
Interview of Clint Van Zandt, December 21, 1993, Attachment, at
1.
800 Gore
Sworn Statement November 3, 1993, at 16.
801 HRT
Sniper Log, August 26, 1992; FBI SIOC Log, August 26, 1992, at 12:30
p.m. (EDT) (Potts and Glenn approved the change).
802 Glenn
Sworn Statement, January 12, 1994, at 28-29.
803 Id.
804 Gore
Sworn Statement, November 3, 1993, at 15.
805 Sworn
Statement of Robin Montgomery, October 25, 1993, at 2.
806 Rogers
Trial Testimony, June 3, 1993, at 74-75. Duke Smith, Stephen McGavin,
William Luthin, and Lester Hazen were not involved in the decision
to revoke the Rules of Engagement but were advised of the decision.
807 SIOC
Log, August 26, 1992, 12:30 p.m. (EDT), at 31. Potts does not recall
this change.
808 HRT
Sniper Log, August 26, 1992, 10:53 a.m. and 10:54 a.m., at 22.
HRT and SWAT team members deployed at the time of the change
to the FBI standard deadly force policy reported to this inquiry
that they received radio notice of the change from Rogers. Each
observation point was required to acknowledge that it was "on the air" before
Rogers announced the change to the standard FBI policy and that
it had heard and understood the change. An HRT member told HRT
and SWAT personnel who began the next shift that the standard
deadly force policy was in effect. Each briefing subsequent to
the announcement included a reminder that the standard policy
on deadly force was in effect.
809 [G.J.]
810 Gritz
was asked during this inquiry whether, at any point leading up to
Harris' surrender, he had detected odors associated with a dead
body. Gritz said that he had not detected such odors and explained
that he was very familiar with the odor of death, due to extensive
service in Viet Nam. Gritz retired from the Special Forces at the
rank of Lieutenant Colonel in 1979.
Soon
after Harris' surrender, Gritz persuaded Weaver to allow him and
Jackie Brown to come inside the residence and remove Vicki Weaver's
body. He obtained a body bag and, with Randy Weaver's assistance,
placed Vicki Weaver's body in the bag. Gritz detected only minimal
odor and was unable to explain why the very recognizable odor usually
associated with a several-day-old corpse had not permeated the residence.
When Gritz placed the body in the bag, he removed what he described
as a holstered nine millimeter semi-automatic pistol.
811 [G.J.]
812 It
was rumored among law enforcement personnel that, after the second
shot, a body, possibly Harris', could be seen on the front or
back porch of the cabin. FD-302 Interview of Luke Joseph Adler,
January 7, 1994, at 2-3. One marshal was told that there was
something wrapped on the back porch "that could be possibly a body." Sworn
Statement of Mark Jurgensen, February 7, 1994, at 16-17. None of
the HRT personnel in mountainside observation positions reported
seeing Harris' body or any other. The Crisis Center Log reported
that the rumor was "completely false and unfounded." Crisis
Center Log, August 25, 1992, at 2:51 p.m. (EDT).
813 Glenn
Sworn Statement, January 12, 1994, at 17-18. 814 Gore Sworn Statement,
November 3, 1993, at 8-9.
815 Lanceley
FD-302, October 19, 1993, at 3-4.
816 Id.
at 3-5. Wilson Lima, hostage negotiator for the FBI's Salt Lake
City Division, was deployed with the Salt Lake City SWAT. Line spoke
of Glenn's commitment to establishing a means of communication with
the Weaver cabin from the time of his arrival on Friday evening,
August 21, 1992. Lima recalls Glenn reiterating the need to get
a phone to the Weaver/Harris group again on Saturday morning, August
22, 1992. FD-302 Interview of Wilson Lima, October 12, 1993, at
1-2.
817 Rogers
Trial Testimony, June 2, 1993, at 67-69.
818 Lanceley
FD-302, September 2, 1993, Attachment A, at 1.
819 Rogers
Trial Testimony, June 2, 1993, at 82.
820 Id.
at 83, 90-91, 93.
821 Lanceley
FD-302, October 19, 1993, at 5.
822 [G.J.]
; Lanceley FD-302, September 2, 1993, Attachment A, at 2-4. Earlier
in the day, a carrier ran over and broke the line to the hostage
telephone.
823 [G.J]
; Lanceley FD-302, September 2, 1993, Attachment A, at 4-8.
824 Gritz
FD-302, November 17, 1993, at 15.
825 Although
the FBI at the scene did not know that Vicki Weaver was dead, they
knew that shots had been fired and had substantial information that
the second shot had at least injured, if not killed, Kevin Harris.
826 Van
Zandt FD-302, December 21, 1993, at 1-2.
827 Lanceley
FD-302, September 2, 1993, Attachment A, at 8-11.
828 [G.J.]
; Lanceley FD-302, September 2, 1993, Attachment A, at 11-19.
829 [G.J.]
830 Command
Post Entry for August 17, 1992; FD-302 Interview of James Scanlan,
January 12, 1994, at 12.
831 Mr.
Gritz was an independent candidate for President of the United States
at the time.
832 Gritz
FD-302, November 17, 1993, at 4-5.
833 Id.
834 Transcript
of conversation intercepted from microphone placed under floor
of Weaver residence, August 29, 1992, at 7:39 p.m. (PDT). According
to Gritz' version of the conversation, Weaver asked, "Bo, is
that you?" Weaver then stated, "They have killed my wife,
they have killed Vicki, and they won't tell anyone" or words
to that effect.
835 Gritz
Fd-302, November 17, 1993, at 6.
836 Lanceley
FD-302, September 2, 1993, Attachment, at 31-32. Lanceley's notes,
generated at that time, state that he first learned that Vicki Weaver,
Kevin Harris, and Randy Weaver had been shot as a result of Weaver's
statement to Gritz.
837 Id.,
Attachment, at 32; Gritz FD-302, November 17, 1993, at 7.
838 FD-302
Interview of Jackie Brown, October 5, 1993, at 2.
839 Gritz
FD-302, November 17, 1993, at 7-8.
840 Id.
841 Id.
at 10-11
842 Jackie
Brown FD-302, October 5, 1993, at 3.
843 The
conversations Gritz had with the Weaver family on August 30 reveal
that Weaver believed that the shotgun on the robot would be used
to kill him if he attempted to pick up the telephone to negotiate.
See Tape Channel 1. at 61-62 and Tape 2 at 5.
844 Gritz
FD-302, at 11-12.
845 Id.
at 12-14.
846 McLamb
FD-302, January 13, 1994, at 6.
847 Rogers
Trial Testimony, June 2, 1993, at 167-68 and June 3, 1993, at 108.
848 Gritz
FD-302, at 12-15
849 Interview
of Maurice Ellsworth on December 15-16, 1993, Tape 2, at 31 (hereinafter
cited as "Ellsworth Interview").
850 Ellsworth
believes that the Marshals Service representative were Michael Johnson,
Ronald Evans, and possibly Warren Mays. Id. at 31-32.
851 Howen
Interview, Tape 4, at 23-27; Ellsworth Interview, Tape 2, at 31-32.
852 It
was decided that Warren Mays, who had close contact with Dave Hunt,
would be the affiant. Howen Interview, Tape 4, at 28-29.
853 Howen
Interview, Tape 4, at 28-29; Ellsworth Interview, Tape 2, at 34-35.
854 FD-302
Interview of Maurice Ellsworth, October 29, 1993, at 5; Ellsworth
Interview, Tape 2, at 42.
855 Ellsworth
Interview, Tape 2, at 42.
856 Howen
Interview, Tape 4, at 29-30.
857 Id.,
Tape 5, at 54; FD-302 Interview of Gregory Rampton, October 18-19,
1993, at 7.
858 Howen
Interview, Tape 6, at 52.
859 Id.,
Tape 5, at 23.
860 Id.
at 17, 22.
861 Id.,
Tape 6, at 52.
862 This
note, which Howen gave to Glenn, was not found when the cabin was
searched after the standoff. Rampton believes that the note articulated
the Government's prosecutorial position, if Weaver surrendered.
Rampton FD-302, October 18-19, 1993, at 17.
863 Id.
864 Howen
Interview, Tape 6, at 9-10.
865 FD-302
Interview of Joseph V. Venkus, October 18-19, 1993, at 6.
866 Howen
Interview, Tape 5, at 23; Tape 6, at 6-7.
867 Id.,
Tape 6, at 17.
868 FD-302
Interview of Wayne F. Manis, October 5, 1993 at 2.
[Editor's
Note: Footnotes 869 through 901 are unavailable.]
901 FD-302
Interview of James Wright, December 21, 1993, at 1-2; FD-302 Interview
of Clint Van Zandt, December 21, 1993, at 1-2.
902 Lanceley
FD-302, October 19, 1993, at 2.
903 Lanceley
FD-302, September 2, 1993, at 2.
904 Lanceley
FD-302, October 19, 1993, at 3.
905 Id.
at 4.
906 Burke
FD-302, at 2.
907 Lima
FD-302, October 12, 1993, at 2.
908 Gritz
FD-302, November 17, 1993, at 5.
909 See,
for example, entries in the FBI SIOC Log concerning the proposed
operations plan and strategy on the first day.
910 Gore
Sworn Statement, November 3, 1993, at 8-9.
911 [G.J.]
912 Jurgensen
Sworn Statement, February 7, 1994, at 16.913 Id.
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